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Made in gb
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Just wondering what people think before I start to stick things together, it may seem a no brainer but I wondered.

I don't know if to take a mortar team giving 3 mortars for 60 pts or a wyvern at 65 with twinlinked heavy 2 stormshard mortars?

Is 5 points more worth 1 less shot but with modifiers?
   
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Rookie Pilot




Vasteras, Sweden

If you care about winning there is no place for a mortar squad. Get the Wyvern!


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Oh, and the wyvern has two guns, so it gets one more blast than the mortars.

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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





UK

Wyverns are basically the no-brainer choice. Getting the extra shot and TL/Shred is invaluable and makes the firepower go from "meh" to "Just about impressive."

The other thing is that if the enemy fires at a Mortar squad, they're boned. Losing one base means you're on an LD7 check with a 50% chance of failure which is pretty gak. The Wyvern is immune to small arms and force your opponent to use his light AT reserves.

The only real decent and compelling thing is that infantry mortars are super-scoring, but really, the "super" part isn't neccessary when you're at the back of the board and if you can't brush them off there then you've probably already lost.
   
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West Chester, PA

Definitely the wyvern.

The profile is confusing but it gets 4 blast templates (2 twinlinked mortars, each firing twice). In addition to all the other benefits of going with the wyvern it's one of the easiest choices you'll ever make.

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Daemonic Dreadnought






Against t4 targets the wyvern will do 3.2 ignore cover wounds for every 1 wound platoon mortars inflict. Math hammer was a simple wyvern 5/9 to hit v 1/3 for the platoon mortar. Wyvern 4 shots platoon 3.


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Thudd gun. I will take T6 5W over a hydra chassis any day. Sure, its only S5 AP5 without shred or ignores cover, but the durability makes up for the slightly less damage than the Hydra.

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Thanks, I thought that was the case.

I'll model my heavy weapons team with las cannons (already got autocannon).
   
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New Orleans, LA

Get a Wyvern.

Then get 2 more.

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Minimum will be 2 in the army.
   
 
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