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Great stuff! You make me so jealous to see a painting league. I mentioned that several times at my FLGS and they just looked at me like I had just farted or something...

burb1996- The league is great for any store. It encourages painting to be sure but it also encourages people to buy stuff. You can try to pitch it this way.

It promotes a good amount of people to buy their armies in small chunks. It has people building entire new armies which means more money for the store. It creates more fully painted armies for RTT which promotes higher attendance at tournaments. It is a great way to bring new people into the hobby and helps create more regulars patrons to the store. People who are just shopping are more apt to show interest in the game when all models are painted. Also encourages increased paint sales. It pretty much works as a long tournament. Prizes help keep attendance up.

This league has been my personal favorite league / tournament that I have ever played to be honest. If the store continues to have these I will do every one. Yes that means I will be collecting various armies. I however am going to miss the fantasy one as they are overlapping.

The league was created by Mark Kyriss and he runs a tight ship. He runs most of our leagues and has always done a great job. I am not usually one for name dropping but he did such a great job on the rules and league he deserves to be credited if you use these rules. I was gonna just post a link but this seemed easier for everyone. I Probally should have posted this as my first post.



RULES

WARHAMMER 40k (5th Edition) PAINT AND PLAY LEAGUE
This league focuses on growing an army gradually and ensuring it is completely painted. Players start with small, expeditionary forces that will over time grow into a full-fledged army. This allows everyone to paint their army while playing league games with their painted pieces.
How the league works: Each League player starts with a small painted 40k army at the beginning of the league. Players will use a challenge system to play ‘league’ games. Challenges cannot be refused, although you may never play the same person more than once a month. League Victory Points are earned / lost. Every ensuing month, each player will add a set number of points of painted models to his army. This continues until everyone has a completely painted 2000 point 40k army. Unpainted and unbased models are not allowed — period.
The following guidelines for army choice: Pick any 40k army you would like to build. Ideally, players should start from scratch. If you’ve started an army, but not played it much, that’s okay.
Games and League Victory Points (LVP): Players may play as many battles as desired during a given month, however, only three battles per month per player will count towards LVPs. Players must decide beforehand whether a game is for fun or for LVPs.

Players receive LVPs based on the following scale:
Win: 3
Draw: 2
Loss: 1

LVPs outside of Battles:
· At the beginning of each month, players will vote for the best-painted addition to an army (they may not vote for their own). The owner will receive a bonus 3 LVPs to be added to his total. No player can win this award more than 3 times.
· Any player may spend 1 LVP to restructure a specific unit (reduce size, remove wargear/ dedicated transport/weapons/psychic powers, etc). Only 2 LVP per month may be spent this way.
· A player may spend 3 LVP to remove a character (not the HQ Commander) or a unit completely. A second unit/character removed costs 6 LVP, a third 9 LVP. This resets each month.
· The player with the lowest Monthly LVP from the previous month may drop one unit for free.
LVPs gained or lost in these categories go into Overall rankings but not Monthly.

Rankings:
LVPs are kept in two categories: Monthly and Overall. Overall LVP are kept over the course of the league. In the end, the player with the most Overall LVP is the winner.
A monthly ranking of LVP is also kept, but is only used for a free army modification (see above).
The First Month—Recon Patrol: The first month, League players will build 500 point armies using the following restrictions:
No model may have more than two wounds, no model may have a 2+ or better armor save, no vehicle may have better than 33 points total armor (Front+Side+Rear values), no Special Characters may be taken, no Ordnance weapons may be taken.
First month games will be played on a 4'x4' table. After the first month, players are free from these restrictions.
Second and Successive Months: Players must take their 500 pt armies and increase them to 750 points; each successive month after they will add 250 more points (see chart below). All armies must meet minimum and maximum limits for a Standard Force Organization listed in the chart below.
NOTE: Particular armies with special composition requirements that would force a change to the comp table will be negotiated on a case-by-case basis.
Every month players will play three standard 40k battles (one each of the three standard objective scenarios, but players will randomly determine deployment zones). Above 1500 points the league organizer may drop the number of games to two if time becomes an issue.
At each 250 block addition, players may:
· Buy new units of any type allowed (per the chart below)
· Increase unit size (ex. five marines to 10 marines)
· Add unit / vehicle upgrades / wargear / psychic powers / dedicated transports / heavy weapons / etc.
· Remove basic character upgrades to upgrade with wargear/improved weapons/etc. (dropping a standard pistol in favor of a plasma pistol or master-crafted weapon, for example)
At each 250 block addition, players may not:
· Remove units or reduce unit size
· Remove wargear, psychic powers or special skills / characteristics (Exarch or Daemonic powers, etc) (although paid-for items can be moved between characters)
· Remove vehicles or mounts
League Master Chart
DATE POINTS HQs TRPs ELs FAs HSs
21 SEP 08 500* 0-1 1-6 0-1 0-1 0-1
2 NOV 08 750 1 2-6 0-1 0-1 0-1
14 DEC 09 1000 1-2 2-6 0-2 0-2 0-2
11 JAN 09 1250 1-2 2-6 0-2 0-2 0-2
8 FEB 09 1500 1-2 2-6 0-3 0-3 0-3
22 MAR 09 1750 1-2 2-6 0-3 0-3 0-3
12 APR 09 2000 1-2 2-6 0-3 0-3 0-3
*First month, restrictions apply (see First Month rules above).

That is AWESOME!! Thanks for this Sha1emade!

Sha1emade, this P&P thread of yours is what I come to Dakka Dakka for. Your skill is obvious, and your army looks great. You are pushing yourself to get better, but more than that, you are telling the story of what it is to be in an active, healthy, and real FLGS community.

This is the part of our hobby that makes memories that last our whole lives. So I wanted to thank you for being diligent and open in sharing your work and your tourney experiences.

The rules post above is the icing on the cake. I'm gonna take this to MY FLGS and get a P&P tourney going!

Cheers!

Phanfasm

Slaaneshi and burb1996 - I must say that I am honored by your kind words. They meant allot to me. It feels good that what I am doing can be helpful to others. I really enjoy doing this and it is reassuring that others enjoy reading it, for one reason or another. So thank you!! If your FLGS decides to have a paint and play please feel free to hijack this thread and post your pics and experiences. Or create your own. But please leave a link here so we can all follow along. Good luck!

NEXT UP: My friend with the deadly Blood Angles is coming over tomorrow to play a game vs my guard. My prediction....BIG LOSS for me. So to change things up a bit, I am going to attempt a detailed battle report of me getting stomped into the ground, as I will be testing my 1500pt force. My friend has agreed to help with this little battle report. I will be posting pictures and a (hopefully) round by round commentary. IF the game happens I will post this report, complete with pictures, tomorrow or the day after.

NEWS: I decided to spring for a new light kit for my camera. One of my jobs is as a photographer so I will want to be testing them here soon. First on the battle report and second on some mini's from my other armies. Am curious to see what people think of them. So with in the next week or so I will do a little show and tell. If I can find the time all of these things will happen soon. If not they will appear as time goes on.

Lovely IG, and the P&P league sounds pretty cool. Too bad I don't live within 100 Miles of a store.

Just something that's been on my mind, do you airbrush those tanks or is it all brushwork?

Faux Pas- It is all brush work. If you are interested in knowing how I did it look on the first page of this thread about 2/3rds down is the step by step directions on how I did it. Sorry you don't have a store with in range. Hope you have a few friends to play games with.

hey Sha1emade, love the guardsmen! I'm doing the same thing as you currently (building an IG army with the new codex in mind, that is.), and had one quick modelling question: where did you get the rubble pieces for your heavy weapon teams? My bases are looking desolate and I like how yours turned out. I think I'll throw some pictures up of my little company once my leman russ is finished, and if I can take a few I like.

Wow! Got me staying up 'til 2 a.m. here reading this stuff. Awesome

Let's see some pics of the guard squad you finished for the games this month and that Comissar does look awesome!

very nice job sir, well done

phill

Phenomenal job! The camo scheme and basing are both very impressive. The Autocannon team is particularly awesome. Nice!

Ok as promised...The battle report between the BA and the Imp Guard.

This will be shortish as it its late and I forgot about a Apocalypse game tomorrow. I hope to take some pics of that as well for posting. However I still have to build my army and it is 2 am so this will the be short version. I wanna post this fast and while it is still fresh and not after the game tommorrow so we get the short version.

Back story....

So my buddy wanted to play a game. He is the one that plays the nasty BA army. He is a good player and his army is very well balanced and fast. My guard have been stomped by this army EVERY time. My DA and Necrons have both defeated his army. However to my knowledge those are his only losses. So uphill battle. I love a challenge and he is fun to play so we got the ball rolling.

Turn 1.

We rolled and got the capture and control - pitched battle 1500pts. We set the table to be fair and I won first turn. He has always had first turn vs my guard in the past, so I hoped this would be my key to victory. We both set up and he decided not to try to seize the initiative.

My set up.


His set up.


His wedge of death


So my first turn started off NICE!!!! I did my scout move with my sentinels and then moved them to get a side armor shot on his vindicator. Everything missed but one auto cannon shot. Rolled a 6 to pen.....a 6 to blast the punk right off the map!!! However as his vindicator is usually overflowing with killy it refused to go without killing anything. So in the explosion, much to my friends dismay, 2 assault marines hiding behind it went splat....skipping a head a touch in the game , the marines failed their leadership and promptly fled off the board.



The rest of that turn and the following turns of shooting can be summed up in one sentence. I STUNNED A RHINO and killed AN ATTACK BIKE with my last 2 shots!!!!. Yup all I could do. Dig the smoke on the Rhino?
Too.......cute......to kill.....aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!


Anyway getting late and gotta wrap up. So the marines get closer....


They killed only 2 squads before I killed nearly all of them. 2 turns of shooting and he had 5 models left on the board. We was stunned and more then a little upset. However he stuck with it and wanted to take as many of my stuff as he could with him. Yeah he pretty much ate everything. I had no scoring troops on my objective. I shot his marines on his objective and they fell back 10 inches. Wouldn't ya know it the game went another turn. Story of my Guard. So the game ended with him scoring one and me zero. BA are just nuts vs guard. Just too fast! Fun game and revenge will be mine...if I use my DA.

ADL HIGHLIGHTS: Ogryn killed a 5 man tac squad and took a full volly from the crusader and lost 2 guys. Sentinels were MVP of the game. Killing a vindicator, predator and the assault squad that ran off the board. Soaked up a good amount of fire power as well. Jump pack chaplain pretty much ate half my army. 3 squads dead from him.

Was a fun game played in my game room. Sorry the pics were terrible, I set the camera wrong and was more into playing then pics. Sorry as well for the short battle report. But its late and I need to build my list for tomorrow. So I can post a few from that battle. Hope I wake up....

Nice and quick batrep!

May I suggest either some vets with meltas or lots of plasma guns? Both are good anti-MEQ units, and considering the amount of armour your firend is running, they'll always be able to shoot something interesting.

and a anti tank support squad with lascanons can work out great too.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I can't take vets at this stage in the Paint and Play as I have all my elites filled. I am not to worried about it however. This army was never made to be competitive. For me it needs to have the widest range of models possible so I can be prepared for the new dex. Plus I am a sucker for having, and playing, one of everything. I will have a anti tank squad with 3 lascannons in 2000pts, I think.

I also did quite respectable against him this time actually. He only had 5 models left and he thought he lost after turn 4. If my army is designed around anything, it is the ability to throw a ton of wounds at an opponent, forcing them to need good dice to beat me, as few of these are AP weapons. However what I have noticed is that it works pretty damned good vs MEC.

I will be making the list actually competitive after the new dex comes out. Being able to win games with it is secondary to having a large range of models painted and ready. Besides , in all fights I am the big underdog and it requires me to play at the very top of my game, if I want a chance to win. I love a challenge and makes me feel better about the victories that I get.

Thanks for the tips and I agree completely with them, just the weak list was actually made on porupose. I know pretty silly huh...

Good Battle Report, Unfortunate that you didn't win but it sounded like a fun day.

You definitely win the best painted award though.

UPDATE: Sisters player was out of town last month but he will be back next month. So I will get pictures of his beautiful models then. He is happy to let me take the pictures so good chance we will see his stuff next month.

So we played a Apoaplypse game at the game shoppe in Omaha, what I conciser to be my FLGS. I live an hour away but I go as often as I can. They also host the paint and play so many of the same players were in the Apoc game. We had 8 players per side, 2k per person, for a total of 32000 points give or take.

We had some great moments, as always in large games, and a great time. One player made pasta for the entire group. Yes, people are THAT cool at the Game Shoppe. The game featured a ton of Apoc formations and forgeworld models. I played my deathwing. 60+ termies were on the board, between all forces, good and evil. I was nominated as the team captain of the good side. Not sure why but I always seem to be the captain in the Apoc games. It is fun but you tend to get pulled in quite a few directions all at once. Still I always enjoy it ,so I'm happy to do it.

Here is a showcase of some of the units that appeared in the game and a few pics of the game itself. I was way to busy to take many pics during the game and to concentrate on a real battle report. So with out further delay...

Thunderbolt and stuff (Painted and owned by the Sisters player




Models by the Armored company player. (His stuff is just cool and inventive. He always has cool stuff.)







Some cool ork stuff. Including Orkamus Prime. (Converted battle wagon Semi)



Deathwing (Not mine)


Drop Pod Marines (In game shot)


Necrons (YES the guy who I always have a close game with)


My Deathwing (Made about 6-8 years or more ago.)


The board



Summary. Very close fight. Actually very tatical. Good game with all types of insanity. The good side lost by....you guessed it one die roll. A pen hit on a shadowsword blew it up causing the evil side to win. If he didn't roll a 5 or 6 then we had won the game. I don't know what it is with me, that it always seems to come down to one simple roll of the dice. We will get the savages next time!!!!!

Anyway I will leave you with a WIP of my ogryn. I am about half way finished with the skin. Everything else just has its base coat on. They are gonna take me forever. They are just so cool that I don't mind. So please be patient with me this month on new model pics.


UPCOMING: Will take some pics of my crons. Will shoot a pic of my last painted guard squad that I seem to keep forget doing. Shots of my DA. Anything else I finish with the guard. My old school 1/2 finished warhound. Shot of my bane blade. Anthing else hobby related that I get to...Stay tuned.

OK. So I've just caught up with this whole thread and have spent quite while reading through it. Sha1emade, I must say that your IG models are just seriously impressive! There is a simple clarity in your work that most people, myself included, strive for. They look exactly like the sort of work that could easily grace the epic photos that are in White Dwarf.

Gushing aside, I'm also enjoying the unfolding story of the league and am impressed by the concept of the league. Any chance of letting us know how it's working so far from a points point of view? Where are you in the league? Who's in front/below? etc.

Keep up the blog! And painting! Dammit man, just keep on going!

InyokaMadoda- Wow you really know how to make a person feel pretty damn good about what they are doing. Thank you for the gracious complements. They are very much appreciated.

In answer to your question about how the league is going. Things are going pretty smooth. Last month had the smallest attendance so far. We expect better numbers next month. I am pretty sure at least 3 more are expected to return, after missing last month. As for the standings...

At the end of the fourth month (1250 pts), the standings:

1. Sha1emade (IG) - 29 pts (3d and final paint win!)
2. Sam (Ultramarines) - 22 pts
3. Bill (BA) - 18 pts
4. Mark* (BT) - 17 pts
5. James ** (Necrons) -16 pts
6. Jon ** (Spacesharks) and Dave (BA) - 15 pts
7. Gavin (Armored Company), Luke (Raven Wing / Death Wing) and Mark * (WH - Sisters) - 12 pts
8. Nick (SM), and Steve (Tau) - 8 pts
9. Jose (Chaos Daemons) - 7 pts
10. Joe * (Tau) - 6 pts
11. Matt (Orks), Jordan (CSM), Kyle (2nd Armored company) - 5 pts
12. Spencer * (CSM), Jason (DA), Tim (SM) - 4 pts
13. Mike (BT) - 3 pts
14. Chris (Necrons), and Kyle (Orks) - 2 pts

* - Asterisks indicate that I have played that army ,one game per asterisk, in the paint and play. All have a small battle report written about how the game went further back in thread. Bill in 3rd is the BA player from the last battle report.

I am currently...

WIN - 5
DRAW - 2
LOSS - 1
PAINT WINS - 3 of 3

Sam in second has...

WIN- 7
DRAW-0
LOSS- 1

Bll in third has... He also missed last month.

WIN - 6
DRAW - 0
LOSS - 0

Missing games do not count as losses. Just no points. Can be hard to make it to all the games. However it is part of the league. Sometimes just showing up makes a big deal. However it is hard and a good chance everyone might miss one month for various reasons so it evens out.

Well that pretty much sums it up. Thank your all for your interest and I hope to post more pics in a few days. Work is gonna possibly stop my painting for a few days.

Ha! Thought you might be winning! Well done sir!

Congrats on the 3rd paint win! I'll join in on agreeing that all three were well deserved. As Inyoka said, your models have a clarity and crispness that most painters strive for (and quite frequently fail to achieve; myself included.) To be able to achieve that, while working to a continuing schedule, is impressive and deserves the commendation.


Frederich

That ork Wagon reminds me of some kind of semi-truck. It looks awesome but with the LOS rules I bet it gets eaten alive. Congrats on first place.

Very well done! Way to crank out those guard!

awl right! love it a lot and you've really exelled yourself on the tanks

Very nice,I love the command squad.

Very nice,I love the command squad.

Fantastic Paint Job. I especially like your basing technique. Those Citadel building pieces really come in handy, don't they? Just curious, though. The missile launcher team, is that road from Plastruct? Thanks again for all the updates.
14th Cadian

Thank you all for your replies and praise. You have no idea how helpful that is for motivation. I take each and every post seriously and am thankful for them all, praise, constructive criticism, questions, suggestions, ideas, likes, dislikes and even humor. In short I am glad for all the posts.

14th Cadian- Yes ,I do believe they are from Plastruct. I tossed the wrapping a while ago, so I can't be 100 per cent sure. They make easy and convincing bases. My Ogryn have 2 different types combined into one base. I hope they achieve the effect I am going for.

With work and the wife being pretty sick it has been tough to do any painting lately. I am however excited to get back to work. So hopefully I can finish something soon.

UPDATE: 75% sure I will be doing a Fantasy Paint and play as well. I have never played the game but will give it a shot if time permits.

QUESTION FOR DAKKA- Should I just combine the fantasy and 40k on this thread or start a new one? They will overlap a bit so I was thinking just using this as my all purpose GW thread. What do you think?

Since this page is so full of other people's work, you may do well to start another thread... if you haven't done so already. Will have to check your recent posts... I'd definitely like to see some more of your paintwork.

Let's see those Ogryns! I've finished my Dire Avengers! Paint harder!

Arctik_Firangi- Good point. However most all the stuff is related to the paint and play. Most of the pics are from the league. The Apoc game had mostly players from the league so that only kinda counts.

As for the painting... I have had to do some reconfiguring. I am joining a Fantasy Paint and play at the same store with similar rules. Problem I am facing is getting 2 armies painted to the quality that I want. I have won all the painting scores that I can from the 40k league. I have a lot to paint for the first 500pts of fantasy and they two leagues overlap. Which has forced a decision. In order to do both leagues I need to use stuff that I have painted already for the 40k league, years ago, and use that for my 40k stuff for 2 of the last 3 months. Allowing me to concentrate on the first month of fantasy. My second month of fantasy has only 5 figs so I can split painting fantasy/40k stuff on the last month of the 40k league. Not to mention it will allow me to view the codex and use it before the first RTT that falls one month after the 40k league. So I can tailor my painting to what I want to use as opposed to guessing.

With that being said. I have been reading up on fantasy, as I have never played it till now, and assembling the army. I will begin painting very shortly for fantasy. I will be using this post for all the pictures, as it is a paint and play thread. So the post will be split between 40k and fantasy paint and play. After that I will start a new thread or just rename the thread. I have chosen my army and have ironed out most of the details and have all the stuff I need till 1250 points. So next step is to base and spray them. I will be returning to the Ogryn time permitting. I hope to have them fully painted and show up in my 2000pt chuck.

I hope this all turns out and that I am not taking too much on. This has been the cause of my absence from this thread, pulling my hair out trying to decide if I want to do both. I have been spending a good portion of time learning the game. I really like my army and hope I can do it justice with my painting. I should be posting more now that I have worked out what is happening. So thanks for your support and pressure to keep me painting. Hope to have some pictures up of the fantasy or the Ogryn. Which ever I finish first.