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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:43:56
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Green Blow Fly wrote:Sidstyler wrote:A sock puppet is an anonymous person who fears to reveal their true identity and hides behind a fake username-
So wait, your real name is "Green Blow Fly"?
Seriously, what's the point of this thread? If you're going to start listing off all the anonymous people who hide behind usernames and post on Dakka you might as well just copy pasta the members list. And unless you've posted your full name, phone number, and address somewhere in your profile you have no right to be pointing fingers at other people for anonymity.
THIS. IS. INTERNET!
Anyway, I don't really care, I say post away. I'm only interested in seeing if my name ends up on there and hearing an explanation for it, if not my interest in this topic will obviously wane.
My real name is Steve Turner. A lot of people here in our community know me.
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Oh so YOU'RE the Steve Turner who emailed me
socket puppet‏
From: Steve Turner (moodhoney@yahoo.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as junk
Sent: February 18, 2009 11:46:45 AM
To: thebunknasty@hotmail.com
you are 1
Any particular reason WHY you think my account is a sock puppet, other than because I say things you don't like?
If you did your homework, you'd see that my email address (you know the one you looked through my profile for?) is attached to a lot of things online (Facebook account, Twitter, etc).
You fail yet again, and please stop emailing me. Either PM me or just post on these forums.
**edit** just noticed that the forums automatically correct for the "u and "r", and make you look more intelligent than your actual email did.
**reedit** eff if, i can't get the netspeak vbersion of "are" here. use your imaginations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:44:21
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Fixture of Dakka
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Green Blow Fly wrote:I noticed there has been a recent rash of sock puppets cropping up. A sock puppet is an anonymous person who fears to reveal their true identity and hides behind a fake username to launch false accusations, spread unfounded speculation and basically lie. Since we here at Dakka are a community I am interested to hear how others feel about this situation.
G
http://lennytaylor.freeyellow.com/Monkey.htm
These were my favorite sock puppets.
They make you feel special when you put a hole in a special place.
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:49:47
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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LunaHound wrote:
Or is it that after so much trolling he is still not banned xD thats bothering you ><
You're confusing having an opinion to trolling, just like GBF and Deadshane1 did.
Or what other account does he own ?
I only own one. This one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:50:02
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Green Blow Fly wrote:Okay here is the list:
Bunker
Danny Internets
Caffran9
Sock Puppets, Sah! Farsands of them!
It seems GBF is actually just confused about the difference between a sock puppet and a troll.
A sock puppet is an account set up by somebody to talk about or support themselves in some way. If I set up an account under a different identity and start posting about how wonderful Under The Couch is, or posting to support my own arguments in YMDC... that's a sock puppet.
Not attaching your real name to an account does not make it a sock puppet. That just makes it (for anyone not running a business online that they promote through that account) sensible internet practice.
Setting up an account specifically for the purposes of causing a ruckuss... (And I should point out that I'm not claiming any of that vast list of account were actually set up for that purpose, since I haven't been following the relevant threads) ... that's a troll, not a sock puppet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:51:57
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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It's not easy being green.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:53:17
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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GBF, your ridiculous and simply unproven and paranoid accusations just cement you further and further into a preverbial dungheap of what many peoples' opinions of you stand to be. (Prove me wrong.) sA
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My Loyalist P&M Log, Irkutsk 24th
"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
We laughed - knowing that better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
He wars on Death, for lives; not men, for flags. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:53:28
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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insaniak wrote:Not attaching your real name to an account does not make it a sock puppet. That just makes it (for anyone not running a business online that they promote through that account) sensible internet practice.
The most ironic part of all this is that Bunker is actually my last name.
GBF, I love you buddy. You make Dakka that much more worth reading.
The sock puppet demands moar GBF posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:53:44
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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This just strikes me as a waste of the Internet.
and ...
Inb4lock
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My Blog http://ghostsworkfromthedarkness.blogspot.com/
Ozymandias wrote:
Pro-painted is the ebay modeling equivalent of "curvy" in the personal ads...
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Taco Bell is like carefully distilled Warseer - you get what you need with none of the usual crap. And, best of all, it's like being a tourist who only looks at the brochure - you don't even have to go, let alone stay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:54:08
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hordini wrote:It's not easy being green.
But it's easier than having the kettle call you black.
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In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 20:57:46
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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sock pooping? yeah If I need to get a listed painted before a big event.
not sock pooping oh whoops
please continue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:00:22
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Fixture of Dakka
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I am so ph34r3d now.
* Hides under pillow *
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:00:44
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Yes.
sA
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My Loyalist P&M Log, Irkutsk 24th
"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
We laughed - knowing that better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
He wars on Death, for lives; not men, for flags. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:06:32
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Green Blow Fly wrote:Okay here is the list:
Bunker
Danny Internets
Caffran9
There are a couple others but they have been silent for awhile.
G
GBF, after all we've been through, I'm not on the list? I thought we had something together, something special.
Now put me on the list or the cute ducklings are gonna get it!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:07:15
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Stalwart Skittari
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It's a shame more forums don't require users to use their real names when posting. Especially in small communities like our gaming communities, it keeps conversation civil, and makes people think before they post since they know they can't fade anonymously away.
We use this naming convention for our Kommando forums and it has resulted in two years of fantastic, thought-provoking conversations with no signal to noise ratio to speak of.
It does, however, but a lot of burden on the mods to track down and confirm registrations. I wonder if the trade off is worth it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:08:31
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Bunker I do have to say that if I squint my eyes when looking at your avatar it does kind of look like a sock puppet.
Maybe that's GBF's proof? Maybe he's squinting behind those sunglasses?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:09:20
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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The Main Man
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Some of us know our real names.
I'm just sayin'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:10:13
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't have a real name. I traded it for a case of Yuengling lager.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:13:56
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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This is a semi-public forum in the sense that anyone can join and there are no fees, you just have to follow the rules. We don't even have a formal age limit, which is why the policy on language is fairly strict.
With thousands of users it would not be worth the Moderators' time trying to validate them all in case a few were sock puppets.
To be frank, I misdoubt GBF's accusations of sock puppetry -- he is just having a go at the anti-WC guys.
I've been on Dakka for several years and I don't remember a single accusation of sock puppetting until just now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:14:08
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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You can always just join the French Foreign Legion if you want a new name, you know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:14:18
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Howard A Treesong wrote:Other forums I frequent don't allow personal discussion and speculation on fellow forum members. You take it to the mods as a private matter not discuss it publically. Same with forum rules queries and challenges to moderator decisions.
I'm quite suprised this is tolerated.
Well I've only made it to page two but I'm thinking the public ridicule is more than enough at the moment. We'll see what happens the rest of the way.
Just remember the old Dakka mantra "You report. We decide."
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:16:06
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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Kilkrazy wrote:I've been on Dakka for several years and I don't remember a single accusation of sock puppetting until just now.
Also, yes.
The only thing that might count as a form of puppetry would be the harem of Malfred clones we used to have, but I think they got loose and escaped a few years back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:19:08
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:It's a shame more forums don't require users to use their real names when posting. Especially in small communities like our gaming communities, it keeps conversation civil, and makes people think before they post since they know they can't fade anonymously away.
Many people don't wish to share personal details. I only do so with people I know and won't post them publically. For a start, you put my whole name into google and at the top of the list you'll find me - my work address, phone number and personal email as well as a photo. No thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:19:17
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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<wipes brow>
Didn't make the list!
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:19:19
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Fixture of Dakka
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What was this thread about again?
Happy Socks?
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:19:21
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Some of them were mine, I think.
A recent inventory of my sock drawer revealed FIVE unmatched singles -- a new record.
It's either Malf or the blue dragons, anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:22:20
Subject: Re:Sock puppets and authentic posts
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:It's a shame more forums don't require users to use their real names when posting. Especially in small communities like our gaming communities, it keeps conversation civil, and makes people think before they post since they know they can't fade anonymously away.
We use this naming convention for our Kommando forums and it has resulted in two years of fantastic, thought-provoking conversations with no signal to noise ratio to speak of.
It does, however, but a lot of burden on the mods to track down and confirm registrations. I wonder if the trade off is worth it?
Seriously thats just stupid. In the age of identity theft thats, as MDG might say, is daft.
EDIT: the idea is stupid, not the poster. You're clearly not paranoid enough. if Malf comes along and asks for your socks DON'T DO IT!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:22:58
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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When you buy socks, my suggestion is to buy 4-6 identical pairs. That way, as you lose a few through attrition, you can combine orphan socks and have another pair. If you buy all individual pairs of socks that don't match, if one is lost or gains a hole, you have to throw the whole pair out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:23:32
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[DCM]
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When in doubt, blame Malfred.
It's worked well for the OT Brigade for years. It's our policy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:23:50
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Don't you color co-ordinate your socks and underwear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 21:27:19
Subject: Sock puppets and authentic posts
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like Chris' suggestion a lot.
And now a show of hands for all here that have sock puppets.
G
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