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If I could paint with only one eye because there were shards of glass in the other, you can paint just fine. You just need more patience than normal. I think that Master of the Forge and servitors came out alright though XD. But if your eyes start hurting, it means its time to rest and try again later.

This is a picture of it

Yeah I had to use flash, and I always use the auto-adjusted form of the image so they always end up a bit brighter.

firstly you have a shard of glass in 1 eye?
second not what i meant when i said eyes hurting.

Yeah I know that irritation and pain are two different things, I don't really know where I was going with it now. Might be with how it would become irritated if I would try to focus on some details with the other eye and it would be best to take long breaks.. Anyway I knew what my point was then but I don't remember it now XD

Yeah, I had some small shards of glass in one eye, but they're gone now and the eye has healed enough so that I can at least see out of it a little bit and no longer require a patch over it. At the time of painting that Master of the Forge I had to though. Luckily there is not going to be any perminant damage to vision

lol (not laughing at the fact you had glass in your eye)

anyway today's my last day off school and I hope to do some more painting but after today i will be a bit slower.

Any extra time to paint in is good, I managed to get the bases done on everything in a few hours today.

I am still pretty new to painting models. I can say that brush control is probably one of the most important part. One way to make this easier is to put your models in blue tac so you don't have to awkwardly hold the model up to your eye. Placing the blue tac on the end of a normal wine cork will give you a comfortable grip of sorts; make sure you warm the blue tac by kneading it for a few minutes to make sure the glue can stick to the cork.

The next thing I would advise is to avoid being so critical of your work. It is important to give yourself room to learn.

An easy way to improve your overall skills would be to use thinned down paints applied in multiple layers. As well as minimizing the effects of your mistakes, your colors will be more bold and smooth.

i love the da chest

thank you for the tip's wrex lxx70007117 your name is really hard to type but thank you.

earlier on i was described as immature (by myself!). got a story to show how mature i am compared to my friends. We were in math(s) at school today when my best mate started chuckling. he passed his textbook over to his (and my) friend and he laughed too. The textbook was then passed back to the girl who sits next to me. she laughed as well. I asked what was so funny. she passed me the textbook and said "look at 2d." I read it, "will y = 1 - x go through point (-8,-7)" hmmmm. I asked what was so funny. she pointed at the first bit "WILL Y." then i look at her quizically and she say's very loudly WILLY! and she's 12. not 3. 12.

What brushes are you using chicken? Also, how do you take care of them? Brush size makes a huge difference in how you paint, if you're using too big of a brush it will cause a lot of mistakes, however too small of a brush will also lead to wasting time when trying to paint lots of models. Try using some different sized brushes; good quality art stores will be able to help you make some wise purchases, and may even be able to give you painting tips too!
Secondly, once you've actually made the financial investment you need to keep them in working condition or you will be buying new brushes after a few models as the bristles get frayed. Some general notes about brush care
-Always dip the brush in a (relatively) clean pot and gently wipe the brush sideways along a cloth or papertowl to remove paint. Repeat this process until paint no longer comes out.
- Never smash the bristles into the side of your cleaning water to try and get extra paint out, this will simply destroy them.
- Never use hot water on horsehair brushes (non-silicon) as it removes the oils, always use cold water.
- Try and keep the plastic tip covering the brush comes with when you buy it; it prevents freak accidents from mashing a brush tip.
- To keep your brush moist try and use a ceramic plate with a bit of water in it to dip your brush in rather than using a stock pot that will sooner or later become polluted with paint. Ceramic is both cleanable with hot water, and the separate plate of water can be changed frequently if it's getting dirty. Only dilute your paint until the consistency you want - too much water and it will run everywhere on the model. (ALWAYS water down your paint for two reasons: firstly it makes it easier to work with and applies in a more controllable manner, second it keeps it moist in the brush and prevents it from drying on the bristles making it much easier to clean).
- It may sound disgusting, but licking the tip of your brush helps preserve the tip. Only do this after you've cleaned it so that no more paint is coming out! The paint is non-toxic, but DDT was also thought to be non-toxic to humans (durrr...) so better safe than sorry .

Hope this helps
Karm

I do half of those things.

Wow, not even a thank you. Maybe you should do the other half and improve yourself?
Just like before in a previous thread, someone goes out of their way to write up thoughtful input, and you are completely rude to them (perhaps you forget calling one poster a rapist?).
Until you're painting at a quality that doesn't make eyes bleed, you should be a little more appreciative of people going out of their way to help you - this isn't the 'help deadly chicken paint better forum.'
If it wasn't for the mods expiclity stating to be nice to you and give constructive criticism (why they would do this for an ungrateful brat is beyond me) I don't think you would have half the responses you do. I know this isn't the first time people have given you flak over your attitude. To think I actually supported you originally, but just like that character on So You Think You Can Dance you've talked yourself into a 'no'.

:( every time i try to be nice and thankful it backfire's. I am thankful I just don't type it out every time i get a post. I am however sad i lost your support as i think your a real nice guy and give good advice. THank you and I'm sorry

DC

I would disagree with that DC. Every time you're nice and thankful people DO appreciate it as they know that the ten minutes (or more) that they spent composing what they thought was a helpful and informative post has been worth it.

I understand what you're saying about not physically writing 'thank you' every time and I do believe that you are generally appreciative of advice on here but the best way to ensure that everyone will continue to offer their help is to take the time to thank them.

For example, your post above reads:

"I do half of those things."

This comes across as arrogant and dismissive as if all the advice were meaningless nonsense which it evidently was not. Your response gives me the impression that you feel like his post was an attack on your skills or that it is 'teaching you to suck eggs' and that you're being defensive about how much you already know. A better way to have responded would be:

"Thanks for the advice karmaiko, I already do some of those things but I hadn't thought of trying *insert technique here*. I'll give it a go and see if it helps."

That way, it allows him/her to understand that you have taken their advice on board while showing that you already have some experience of what they are talking about. It only takes a minute longer to write a post in a more gracious manner and I'm willing to bet my mortgage on the fact that you'll get better responses and more help by just taking the time to say a brief thank you.

This is in no means a rant DC, please understand that. I'm just trying to help advise you on how to deal courteously with folks so that you continue to get the help and advice you need in the future and don't get left out in the cold.

tsd

You've seen a lot of improvement in a short time, with resources and assistance many of us could only have dreamed of when we started this gak in the 80s and early 90s. 90s for me... but let's see a uniform squad of at least five miniatures. The ork was very good, and I can see you spent a good bit of time on it, but there's also a painful difference between painting quickly and painting well. I tend to spend too long on single minis myself, a habit I find hard to break from my days of owning very few miniatures indeed. I painted the first 750 or so points of my first army (Space Wolves 2nd ed, much smaller game) a single mini at a time, but it looked garbage because they weren't really uniform.

karmaiko wrote:-Always dip the brush in a (relatively) clean pot and gently wipe the brush sideways along a cloth or papertowl to remove paint. Repeat this process until paint no longer comes out.
- Never smash the bristles into the side of your cleaning water to try and get extra paint out, this will simply destroy them.
- Never use hot water on horsehair brushes (non-silicon) as it removes the oils, always use cold water.
- Try and keep the plastic tip covering the brush comes with when you buy it; it prevents freak accidents from mashing a brush tip.
- To keep your brush moist try and use a ceramic plate with a bit of water in it to dip your brush in rather than using a stock pot that will sooner or later become polluted with paint. Ceramic is both cleanable with hot water, and the separate plate of water can be changed frequently if it's getting dirty. Only dilute your paint until the consistency you want - too much water and it will run everywhere on the model. (ALWAYS water down your paint for two reasons: firstly it makes it easier to work with and applies in a more controllable manner, second it keeps it moist in the brush and prevents it from drying on the bristles making it much easier to clean).
- It may sound disgusting, but licking the tip of your brush helps preserve the tip. Only do this after you've cleaned it so that no more paint is coming out! The paint is non-toxic, but DDT was also thought to be non-toxic to humans (durrr...) so better safe than sorry .

Hope this helps
Karm

Helped me, thanks. I did the first, second, fourth and fifth things already. But I didn't know about the hot water thing with the brushes. Lost a couple that way, I thought they just might have been a crappy company or something >_>

lol! thank you every one for the support. I've almost finished the elf (needs a proper base) but here he is now:

hmm the highlighting on the cape on the backs looks quite good. I think you need to put someting on that base though to get a better view. For me that helps

yep i know it needs a base. may get around to it tonight. thanks!

I have been keeping track of this thread since it opened (actually several threads ago ) and I just wanted to comment on the patients that the Dakka Dakka community has.

Great job to those that gave advice and kept your cool.

Good advice all and it seems that ole DC is starting to listen and has improved greatly and I do not mean in just the painting department.

Keep up the good work DC in your painting and attitude DC.

yay! thank you! ^.^

May i show you my improvement with before & after washes?

Also note that i spent copious amounts of time on the Small Details! 5 hours on the warboss!

Wish i had that one in my collection^^^^ !!!!

thats not half bad at all. Try to get a better picture though..

The elfs cloak looks really good.

SonofLoki - you must be a friggin master! Ive never seen washes turn a chaos termy into a warboss. That trick, I gotta learn!


DC - I have to hand it to you, your skills are only getting better and better. Specially on that black orc. WOW. Keep it up

Wow, the improvement is massive-but i guess that is the effect of a bit of effort and concentration.

However, I did stop reading when you told the story about a quadratic equation.

do you do those at 12?!

Hmmm i must ask if your 12, if so PPL leave the poor bloke alone about his attitute his 12 for christ sake his suppost to be a smart ass brat who wasnt at 12. and lasty im 23 and i laughed at the willy thing ( giggled like a lil girl actually) and as for your painting just comes with time i guess patience is the key and that develops as you get older. also less painting more chasing girls

SonsOfLoki wrote:May i show you my improvement with before & after washes?

Also note that i spent copious amounts of time on the Small Details! 5 hours on the warboss!

You must be champion of Tzeentch o_o

yay thank you for the complements.
and thank you sons of loki for that before and after picture.
but most of all thank you for bringing this thriead back into my immediate memory

ummmmm this will sound really stupid and begginery but how do you highlight? I can highlight objects with large dips quite well and also drybrush but i cant for the life of me simply highlight a space marine. can you help me please?

yay thank you for the complements.
and thank you sons of loki for that before and after picture.
but most of all thank you for bringing this thriead back into my immediate memory

ummmmm this will sound really stupid and begginery but how do you highlight? I can highlight objects with large dips quite well and also drybrush but i cant for the life of me simply highlight a space marine. can you help me please?