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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 17:25:58
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:How about a Bill and Ted one then?
Interestingly, and as an aside...
Does anyone find films about Modern Wars (like Jarheads etc) to be slightly condescending? I mean, we know War is gak. We know Soliders are left in gakky situations to do gakky things that they might prefer they didn't have to. I can well imagine them being pissed off about being deployed to a gakky warzone to do gakky things when it's for gakky reasons (Iraq anyone?).
I really do feel that War films should always be historical, as a counter point to taught History by going to survivors etc (hats off to Band of Brothers in particular)
I didn't realize that the first Gulf War wasn't historical. Is Kuwait still under Iraqi control and I don't know about it? Jarhead is also based on a memior so if you want to go interview the guys in the story feel free to do so.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 17:30:37
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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84 charlie mopic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 17:31:45
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I forgot: those two excellent movies done by Clint Eastwood: Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima. Both are excellent movies and are best viewed together.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 17:47:10
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Catch-22
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 18:43:04
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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BrookM wrote:I forgot: those two excellent movies done by Clint Eastwood: Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima. Both are excellent movies and are best viewed together.
Letters was good. I didn't like Flags. Too much whiny, not enough bangie bangie.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 21:38:31
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos
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Frazzled wrote:BrookM wrote:I forgot: those two excellent movies done by Clint Eastwood: Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima. Both are excellent movies and are best viewed together.
Letters was good. I didn't like Flags. Too much whiny, not enough bangie bangie.
I agree. Letters was about duty and honour whereas Flags was about making money, albeit for the war effort. @KilKrazy, Yeah it was Paths of Glory. I showed it to my Grade 7 History class at an International Jr.High in Tokyo. We also watched Gallipoli and Dr.Strangelove. "A"s for everbody!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 22:24:56
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
Oban, Scotland
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My favourites:
Saving Private Ryan
We Were Soldiers
Band Of Brothers
and the Sharpe Series with Sean Bean
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 23:20:49
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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Sharpe!
How could I forget that?
Oh, and 'Master and Commander' - that's great.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 23:37:29
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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For Russians in Afganastan, may I recommend "The Beast"?
Play it back to back with Apocalypse Now for a real hit on the brain pan. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sharpe rules all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 23:51:21
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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@Relapse - What did you think of '9th Company'? I thought it was pretty cool.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/12 23:58:54
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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I didn't see that one. I checked what it was about just now and it seems interesting .
A Black Adder/Sharpe teamup would be the ultimate war movie of all time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 00:01:27
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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It's fairly long, but has a good ending.
Ahem!
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 01:41:53
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ah yes, we were soldiers. Another good one.
Pearl harbor had it's moments. Not saying it was a good movie, just that it had it's moments.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 01:49:49
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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@ Relapse - That would be an awesome setting for Blackadder!
Blackadder Goes Forth is one of my favourite series of all time. I heard they had considered the idea of doing one set in 60's with them as a rock band, with Blackadder as the band manager, and Baldrick as the drummer or something.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 02:10:48
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Frazzled wrote:Letters was good. I didn't like Flags. Too much whiny, not enough bangie bangie.
Yeah, I agree with Fraz (mark it in your calendars everyone).
Letters was a really good movie. Flags was an interesting idea that ended up a really boring movie.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 02:16:41
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would have to say Gettysburg is my favorite war movie. But one that hasn't been mentioned:
Heartbreak Ridge
One of the greatest movie for quotes, ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 02:30:57
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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DarthDiggler wrote:I would have to say Gettysburg is my favorite war movie. But one that hasn't been mentioned:
Heartbreak Ridge
One of the greatest movie for quotes, ever.
I hope you're talking about Gettysburg, because Heartbreak was a piece of major crap. There's no way a Recon unit is going to turn into the type of shitbirds that was portrayed in that movie.
Sorry, just noticed you were talking about quotes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 02:58:55
Subject: Historical War Movies
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Relapse wrote:I hope you're talking about Gettysburg, because Heartbreak was a piece of major crap. There's no way a Recon unit is going to turn into the type of shitbirds that was portrayed in that movie.
Sorry, just noticed you were talking about quotes.
Hearbreak Ridge is another film you can add along with Kelly's Heroes, The Thin Red Line and Braveheart to the 'jolly good movie but a lame war movie category'.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 03:19:57
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wouldn't even call it that. It's just a steaming pile of crap that is one of Eastwood's worst movies since "The Gauntlet".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 03:43:49
Subject: Re:Historical War Movies
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I am going to shamelessly wave the Finnish flag here and recommend two films for all those interested in WWII films. First of all "Tuntematon Sotilas" ( "Unknown Soldier" ). There are actually two version: the original black and white from 1955 and a color version from 1985. The older version is shown every Independence Day on television and tells the story of a MG Company during the Continuation War. The second is "Talvisota" ( "Winter War" ) from 1989. It tells the story of Platoon of reservists during the Winter War.
Choosing personal Top 5 is very difficult, but after some dice rolling it looks something like this ( in no particular order ):
- Das Boot
- Tuntematon Sotilas
- Untergang
- A Bridge too far
- Full Metal Jacket
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12001st Valusian Airborne
Chrome Warriors
Death Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 03:51:47
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Madrak Ironhide
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How realistic are we going here?
Henry V
I don't watch too many films.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 05:57:45
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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So no ones mentioned Hamberger hill or Platoon yet.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 06:36:08
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Anzio!! Just to see Columbo get WTFPWND! Also funny for the Germans with air rifles who think they're at a circus.
If anyone has seen it, No Mans Land is a good one about the Serbian/Kosovo doohickey a while back.
Band of Brothers trumps Saving Private Ryan in my books. Feels more real plus episode 2 at the beginning. Wow. Always fills me with awe. I make it a point to watch it at least once a year. My girlfriend cries every time we do.
Someone mentions Kelly's Heroes? No! NO! That was awful! As was Patton. Automatically Appended Next Post: Hawkins wrote:So no ones mentioned Hamberger hill or Platoon yet.....
Lots of people have mentioned Platoon. Hamburger Hill was alright. Fake head 4tw!
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Armies:
(CSM/HH) - Iron Warriors; Death Guard; World Eaters; Night Lords
IG - Vestfalian Expeditionary
Force (Solar Auxilia - HH)
SM - Blades of Inaros (Homebrew)
DE - Kabal of Ouroboros
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 07:40:25
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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infilTRAITOR wrote:If anyone has seen it, No Mans Land is a good one about the Serbian/Kosovo doohickey a while back.
I was just coming to post that one!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 10:43:52
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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honestly, Pearl Harbor was one of the worst movies about WW2 and more specifically.. erm, Pearl Harbor, to ever have been produced...
basically EVERY fight scene is filled with historical innacuracies, and ones that bother me to no end. its only saving grace is that the special effects that went into those innacurate flight scenes was well done.
The same could be said for Kingdom of Heaven... filled with historic BS, and hollywood slant thrown in for good measure, but still a decent watch every so often.
My personal favorite war movies, in no particular order:
Das Boot
Apocalypse Now! (i know, not historically accurate, per se, but still a great movie)
Full Metal Jacket
Saving Private Ryan
Battle of Brittain (yes, there was a movie made, and it was called the battle of brittain, genius i know)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 11:02:45
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Another one 1941. Good ol John. (my reasoning is that if someone can pick pearl harbour, i can pick this one  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 12:09:18
Subject: Historical War Movies
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Hawkins wrote:So no ones mentioned Hamberger hill or Platoon yet.....
Hey I did!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 12:25:21
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Now that you mention it, i guess you did, its probably the filters at work, for some reason i dont see all the posts all the time. (happened twice now) but at home i do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 12:34:07
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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squilverine wrote:
n. (plural)
Slang term, from the French (or Romanian) word for sailor.
They tend to get naked more than is strictly neccesary. It was feared that having women serve on war ships would prove damaging to morale but apparently the man on man action continues to keep the men "on side".
Winston Churchill described life in the Navy as "rum, sodomy and the lash". In today's modern navy, corporal punishment is not allowed in any form. Alcohol is considerably frowned upon (especially if you run your big grey war canoe onto rocks while tanked up). Sodomy however seems to be positively encouraged if not mandatory!
When I was in the Marines we used to say that in the Navy, 300 men go out on a ship and 150 couples come back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/13 13:08:38
Subject: Historical War Movies
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Frazzled wrote:Hawkins wrote:So no ones mentioned Hamberger hill or Platoon yet.....
Hey I did!
Me too.
ZF-
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