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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:You can't make the argument that murderers should be locked up with "Murderers are more likely to murder again" as your only premise.

On the other hand, if you add in other premises to that argument, you can.

But either way, statistics are not based in morality.

Sure, but the conclusion based on that statistic is based in morality.

Okay. But that clearly isn't what I meant. I explicitly defined what I took legislating morality to mean in what you quoted there. If, on the other hand, we go where you're taking us then it's very nearly a tautology to even talk about morality in the same breath as law, because all law is morality.

That's my point. All law is morality. As such, I really don't understand what you mean when you say you can't legislate morality. I'm guessing you mean you can't legislate a certain kind of morality, but I'm not really sure what makes this a certain kind of morality.

ChrisCP wrote:Vote Julia lol.

Cosmic Irony. Or something.

sebster wrote:Sure, but the conclusion based on that statistic is based in morality.

This is getting us nowhere.

sebster wrote:

Okay. But that clearly isn't what I meant. I explicitly defined what I took legislating morality to mean in what you quoted there. If, on the other hand, we go where you're taking us then it's very nearly a tautology to even talk about morality in the same breath as law, because all law is morality.

That's my point. All law is morality. As such, I really don't understand what you mean when you say you can't legislate morality. I'm guessing you mean you can't legislate a certain kind of morality, but I'm not really sure what makes this a certain kind of morality.

Okay.

"I don't think that people should make laws against certain behaviours where the only justification for that law is that some people don't like observing that behaviour."

Clear?

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Okay.

"I don't think that people should make laws against certain behaviours where the only justification for that law is that some people don't like observing that behaviour."

Clear?

Cheers, that’s a clear argument. I see what you're saying now.

I don’t agree, mind you, as I think it is reasonable for society to place restrictions on what can be done in public spaces.