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Frazzled wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Do you wait with the tv on hoping for your president to make a mistake? Did you do the same when GeeDubya Bush vomited on the Japanese Prime Minister?

Wait you thought that was a mistake?

To be fair, the last five Japanese PMs would be vomited on by a lot of Japanese if they got the chance.

Anyway, you haven't seen a sport until you've seen American Cricket.

biccat wrote:
No, they're not. Mistakes are by definition unintentional. Your emotional bias against Bush is clouding your judgment.

Why is Bush relevant? Didn't you just point out how making comparisons like that is foolish? You aren't doing well today.

Anyway, by what definition? When I make a mistake on math test I still made an intentional choice to write the incorrect answer in the relevant place. Mistake is a synonym for error, and Merriam-Webster defines it as, among other things, to blunder in the choice of.

biccat wrote:
No, just pointing out that the present administration has worked its way to the bottom, diplomatically speaking.

With Britain? With Pakistan? With Turkey? With France?

With all countries, or countries that you like?

biccat wrote:
Sometimes, yes. It depends on how awkward the greeting.

So what you're saying here is that diplomacy is not something you're qualified to judge.

I already knew that, but its nice to have my opinions reinforced.

mattyrm wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Though I can't help but think that being a Royal might have an effect on how people deal with you. "Hi, I'm a double-hard ten foot tall killing machine." tends to generate a modicum of respect in people.

Im only 5 foot 9 mate, but yeah your right i'm fething nails.

I live in a city full of SAS people and i have seen a small person to terrible things to another person...

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think five foot nine is small...

For a man it is, and I'm 5'9.

purplefood wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Though I can't help but think that being a Royal might have an effect on how people deal with you. "Hi, I'm a double-hard ten foot tall killing machine." tends to generate a modicum of respect in people.

Im only 5 foot 9 mate, but yeah your right i'm fething nails.

I live in a city full of SAS people and i have seen a small person to terrible things to another person...

"Ten Feet Tall" is a state of mind.

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
No, they're not. Mistakes are by definition unintentional. Your emotional bias against Bush is clouding your judgment.

Why is Bush relevant? Didn't you just point out how making comparisons like that is foolish? You aren't doing well today.

I'm not the one who raised the issue. Some people defend Obama by attacking his predecessor. That's not generally a good idea, since Bush was better than Clinton, and Clinton was better than Bush I who was better (at least with Russia) than Reagan, but we can probably stop there, because there's very few ways you can say Reagan was worse than Carter.

dogma wrote:Anyway, by what definition? When I make a mistake on math test I still made an intentional choice to write the incorrect answer in the relevant place. Mistake is a synonym for error, and Merriam-Webster defines it as, among other things, to blunder in the choice of.

The general intent to write does not equate to a specific intent to make a wrong choice. Do you think "blunder" is an intentional act, or one that is unintended?

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
No, just pointing out that the present administration has worked its way to the bottom, diplomatically speaking.

With Britain? With Pakistan? With Turkey? With France?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

dogma wrote:With all countries, or countries that you like?

Not all countries, only those that he has engaged in diplomacy yes.

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
Sometimes, yes. It depends on how awkward the greeting.

So what you're saying here is that diplomacy is not something you're qualified to judge.

I already knew that, but its nice to have my opinions reinforced.

This makes absolutely no sense. You need to work on your analogies.

Can you prove Fermat's last theorem? No? Well then that simply reinforces the fact that you're not qualified to judge the World's Strongest Man contest.

Deleted by Manchu.

Steu wrote:Hey Dakka


When he was first elected our prime minister at the time (dumb ass Gordon Brown) had to request 5 times to a meeting with Obama
Thanks Dakka

At least Dumb Ass Brown knows what happened in 1940
unlike Arselick Camoron

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

Steu wrote:Hey Dakka


When he was first elected our prime minister at the time (dumb ass Gordon Brown) had to request 5 times to a meeting with Obama
Thanks Dakka

At least Dumb Ass Brown knows what happened in 1940
unlike Arselick Camoron

Did he not write a book at some point, with a section dedicated to certain individuals in that period? Something about Bravery maybe?

Whereas Cameron praised the USA for playing a primary role in the Battle of Britain!

I'm sure the 7 American pilots that showed up of their own accord gave a good account of themselves though.

biccat wrote:
I'm not the one who raised the issue. Some people defend Obama by attacking his predecessor. That's not generally a good idea, since Bush was better than Clinton, and Clinton was better than Bush I who was better (at least with Russia) than Reagan, but we can probably stop there, because there's very few ways you can say Reagan was worse than Carter.

But I didn't raise the issue, and you're responding to me, not other posters. As such its strange that you would make a comparison you identified as being bad, because it is, when responding to a person who did not raise it himself. After all, we are talking about Obama, so my claim that your bias against him (which we can clearly agree exists) is damaging your judgment is directly relevant. However, your claim that I have a bias against Bush (which does not clearly exist) is not directly relevant because we're not talking about Bush.

biccat wrote:
The general intent to write does not equate to a specific intent to make a wrong choice. Do you think "blunder" is an intentional act, or one that is unintended?

No, but if I respond to a question of "What is the sum of 2 and 2?" with "5." I clearly intended to write "5." I don't need to intend to do an erroneous, or mistaken, thing in order for it to be erroneous, or mistaken. Ergo, I can make a mistake without intending to do so, while taking an intentional action; rendering the mistake itself (the action taken) intentional.

Colloquially, would you ever actually say that GWB made a mistake by vomiting on the Japanese PM? Or would you say it was unfortunate, or bad? In short, would you describe the event, or the person's choice? Personally, I would describe the event, and not anything Bush chose to do.

biccat wrote:
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

France, and Turkey?

The US supported France's engagement of Libya, do you think that was something which occurred by chance, or do you think there may have been diplomatic engagement prior to the event? The US and France have been quietly hostile ever since the beginning of the Cold War, there has been no change under Obama; certainly not following Bush.

As for Turkey, what has Obama done? Induced the Turkish President to say this:

Gül wrote:...evidence of a vital partnership between Turkey and the US...

And hey, we still have nuclear weapons and aircraft at Incirlik, clearly our diplomatic relations are in a terrible state of affairs.

biccat wrote:
Not all countries, only those that he has engaged in diplomacy yes.

Yeah, Kenya hates us, so do Iraq, and Afghanistan. And India. And Japan. And China.

biccat wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense. You need to work on your analogies.

If you punch people who greet you awkwardly, then your diplomatic skills, diplomacy being central to greeting people without making them angry, are not very good.

biccat wrote:
Can you prove Fermat's last theorem? No? Well then that simply reinforces the fact that you're not qualified to judge the World's Strongest Man contest.

It isn't my fault that you made it through law school without learning what "diplomacy" means.

Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

American cricket? Or the proper kind like they play in Pakistan?

purplefood wrote:Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

on Saturdays I normally take team Weinie for an epic tale of high adventure around Milburn park (Frazzled, taking short dogs on long walks since November 2009). They have a Pakistani/Indian group of guys that play Kricket there in the morning. Its kind of neat as there is often swim team competitions or soccer going on at the same time.

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

on Saturdays I normally take team Weinie for an epic tale of high adventure around Milburn park (Frazzled, taking short dogs on long walks since November 2009). They have a Pakistani/Indian group of guys that play Kricket there in the morning. Its kind of neat as there is often swim team competitions or soccer going on at the same time.

Brtain: Creating and spreading sports to countries that then become better at them than us since... actually for a while now.
It is a fun game to play but not so much to watch IMO.
Rugby i can watch for ages without getting bored.

purplefood wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

on Saturdays I normally take team Weinie for an epic tale of high adventure around Milburn park (Frazzled, taking short dogs on long walks since November 2009). They have a Pakistani/Indian group of guys that play Kricket there in the morning. Its kind of neat as there is often swim team competitions or soccer going on at the same time.

Brtain: Creating and spreading sports to countries that then become better at them than us since... actually for a while now.
It is a fun game to play but not so much to watch IMO.
Rugby i can watch for ages without getting bored.

Well I don't understand it, so its like this alien thing in the middle of my park. But everyone playing seems to be strictly doing it for fun and enjoying themselves mightily which makes it cool. Where I am in life, everything sports related is generally school and all about competition, so its like a breath of fresh Brit air.

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

on Saturdays I normally take team Weinie for an epic tale of high adventure around Milburn park (Frazzled, taking short dogs on long walks since November 2009). They have a Pakistani/Indian group of guys that play Kricket there in the morning. Its kind of neat as there is often swim team competitions or soccer going on at the same time.

Brtain: Creating and spreading sports to countries that then become better at them than us since... actually for a while now.
It is a fun game to play but not so much to watch IMO.
Rugby i can watch for ages without getting bored.

Well I don't understand it, so its like this alien thing in the middle of my park. But everyone playing seems to be strictly doing it for fun and enjoying themselves mightily which makes it cool. Where I am in life, everything sports related is generally school and all about competition, so its like a breath of fresh Brit air.

Sounds nice.
We used to play it during lunch after our we lost the rugby ball and no one could be bothered to get another one.

dogma wrote:It isn't my fault that you made it through law school without learning what "diplomacy" means.

Fortunately for me, diplomacy isn't a required course. But it's these types of petty insults that make me regret engaging you.

Ever since WW I, we've been buddies. Before that, well, eeehhhhhh, that's history.

Oh, and British rappers sound so funny.

Please let's avoid the back-and-forth jabs and stick exclusively to the big weighty paragraphs where we poke holes in the formulation of one another's arguments.

Thanks!

micahaphone wrote:Ever since WW I, we've been buddies. Before that, well, eeehhhhhh, that's history.

Oh, and British rappers sound so awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t28COxEp2k

Fixed that and provided evidence.

biccat wrote:
Fortunately for me, diplomacy isn't a required course. But it's these types of petty insults that make me regret engaging you.

If you're going to talk about bad diplomacy, or talk about why what person X said about person Y's skill with diplomacy, then you might want to know what the word means. You have Google, Yahoo, Bing!, and other search engines and Merriam-Webster has an online dictionary, also dictionary.com exists, use your assets or don't take offense for being called out for not doing so.

There is no harm in not knowing what a word means if you admit to ignorance, and thereby learn from the event.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Do you wait with the tv on hoping for your president to make a mistake? Did you do the same when GeeDubya Bush vomited on the Japanese Prime Minister?

Wait you thought that was a mistake?

To be fair, the last five Japanese PMs would be vomited on by a lot of Japanese if they got the chance.

Anyway, you haven't seen a sport until you've seen American Cricket.

Last time I checked G.W. Bush never threw up on a Japanese man his father did?

purplefood wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well this thread went south quickly...
Anyone up for cricket?

on Saturdays I normally take team Weinie for an epic tale of high adventure around Milburn park (Frazzled, taking short dogs on long walks since November 2009). They have a Pakistani/Indian group of guys that play Kricket there in the morning. Its kind of neat as there is often swim team competitions or soccer going on at the same time.

Brtain: Creating and spreading sports to countries that then become better at them than us since... actually for a while now.
It is a fun game to play but not so much to watch IMO.
Rugby i can watch for ages without getting bored.

Pshaw. AFL, mate. That's where it's at.

Though apparently we started that because we could never comprehend what offside meant.

DutchKillsRambo wrote:Last time I checked G.W. Bush never threw up on a Japanese man his father did?

Family tradition?

corpsesarefun wrote:Some folks have chilli without beans?

I pity them...

Melissia wrote:I pity those fools that put beans IN their chili.

Seriously, it just ruins the texture and flavor of the chili.

There was recently a thread on Fark where Obama had released his chili recipe. I hitherto was unaware that there was a huge disparity in this country re: beans in chili. Apparently half the country considers them essential, and half consider it a travesty. Myself, I omit beans because I don't like beans.

So far as England goes, you guys are OK with me. I like your magazines with the boobs right in them and Princess Beatrice's crazy hats. My wife likes your BBC shows. That being said, I don't think we're quite on the BFF level like we are with Canada. Canada are the Necrons to our Blood Angels.

For pure entertainment, though, Australia wins hands down. I enjoy your Bearded Dragons, but especially, there are news stories there that simple do not occur anywhere else in the world. Seriously, what is with you people.

Ouze wrote:For pure entertainment, though, Australia wins hands down. I enjoy your Bearded Dragons, but especially, there are news stories there that simple do not occur anywhere else in the world. Seriously, what is with you people.

The Officers at the scene wrote:"As a result, the accused and police fell to the ground and ... suffered some cuts and abrasions as a result of the fall."

notprop wrote:He should have rapped, would have been more "real".

Other than that, thanks for coming over see you at the next war/meeting/whatever.

You know how it happens, we show up halfway through the whole thing and make it end sooner than it would have.


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ArbeitsSchu wrote:I'm sure the 7 American pilots that showed up of their own accord gave a good account of themselves though.

We were busy sending pilots to China in secret, keeping secrets takes a lot out of us especially when our allies were spying on us at the same time.

Speaking about pilots and WW2, the best pilot ever of all time was a German pilot during WW2. He lasted the entirety of the war, starting with a recon plane and moving up to a stuka, and got the German equivalent of the Medal of Honor five times. He ended up flying over 2,500 missions, destroying 1,000+ trucks, 500+ tanks, 4 trains, 2 destroyers, 1 cruiser, and 1 battleship. Not to mention he also shot down some other planes with a dive-bomber.

The Red Baron perchance?