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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 13:50:38
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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now. for another form of fortress.
Orbital defense battery.
for each battery, how many giant lascannon thing does it has?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 13:58:48
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warriors of Ultramar I believe consists of a single gun inside an emplacement, although this needs clarification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 14:10:03
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Lone Cat wrote:now. for another form of fortress.
Orbital defense battery.
for each battery, how many giant lascannon thing does it has?
It's a single massive cannon, housed inside of a hugely fortified and protected emplacement. They usually have a single Guard/PDF regiment permanently stationed inside the outer defenses, along with a myriad of servitor and automatic defenses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:07:21
Subject: Re:Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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there are also ground based Torpedo silos(basically ICBM silos with space targeting capabilities)
the Torpedos are the size of todays Skyscrapers.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 16:03:38
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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In the future, an attacker would probably fill a defensive ditch by shelling it with polyurethane foam canisters, if he wanted to assault the fortification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 16:06:55
Subject: Re:Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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lol
I am not convinced about the ballistic qualities of foam.
wouldn't air currents play havoc with your aim?
and couldn't the defenders counter with leaf blowers to keep the ditches clear?
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 16:35:10
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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now. about another Planetstrike product,
Fortress of Redemption
it is said that Dark Angels were the first to introduce it. and it's more or less permanent (or isn't it another prefab structures like the Bastion itself?)
also is this Space-Marines exclusive? if they do man AEGIS defense system and the Bastion. I'm not sure if IG formations did vice versa? ... manning FoD?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 16:48:12
Subject: Re:Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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its certaintly more permanent then Bastions are.
it has a lower profile aside from the missile silo. the fighting platforms are squatter, it likely incorperates underground rooms for storage.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 20:29:14
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Lone Cat wrote:now. about another Planetstrike product,
Fortress of Redemption
it is said that Dark Angels were the first to introduce it. and it's more or less permanent (or isn't it another prefab structures like the Bastion itself?)
also is this Space-Marines exclusive? if they do man AEGIS defense system and the Bastion. I'm not sure if IG formations did vice versa? ... manning FoD?
What are you meaning by "Space-Marines exclusive"?
If you're asking "do only Space Marines use them", then no. The Dark Angels had, apparently, during the aftermath of the Horus Heresy started to build up these 'Fortresses of Redemption' on worlds throughout the Imperium. They're intended to be defensive positions and waypoints that the Unforgiven can retreat to if they capture a fairly influential member of the Fallen and secure them until the Dark Angels can take possession of them.
Otherwise, most of the time, those fortresses are empty and utilize their automated defenses.
The Aegis defense system and the Bastion as well have automated defensive weapons, not manned ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 20:35:36
Subject: Re:Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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the Imperium does make use of unmanned defense systems in many areas.
the bulk of anti-air defenses are Servitor manned.
the only human operated defenses will be smaller weapons such as heavy bolters or Multi-lasers(and even then, many will be servitor manned)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 01:38:23
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Kanluwen wrote:Lone Cat wrote:now. about another Planetstrike product,
Fortress of Redemption
it is said that Dark Angels were the first to introduce it. and it's more or less permanent (or isn't it another prefab structures like the Bastion itself?)
also is this Space-Marines exclusive? if they do man AEGIS defense system and the Bastion. I'm not sure if IG formations did vice versa? ... manning FoD?
What are you meaning by "Space-Marines exclusive"?
If you're asking "do only Space Marines use them", then no. The Dark Angels had, apparently, during the aftermath of the Horus Heresy started to build up these 'Fortresses of Redemption' on worlds throughout the Imperium. They're intended to be defensive positions and waypoints that the Unforgiven can retreat to if they capture a fairly influential member of the Fallen and secure them until the Dark Angels can take possession of them.
Otherwise, most of the time, those fortresses are empty and utilize their automated defenses.
The Aegis defense system and the Bastion as well have automated defensive weapons, not manned ones.
yeh I mean that.
but if you said that Marines weren't the only ones allowed to use it. then is there any instances that the Imperial Guard uses one?
and thanks for the original answer of whether the Bastion weapons are manually crewed or automated ones.
but sayin' that SM manned Aegis defence line means that they stand the blast walls
=^.^=
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 01:43:05
Subject: Re:Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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the Aegis defense line and Bastions are used by both marines and IG.
the Bastions and Aegis defense lines are useful to Astartes because they can be used to rapidly set up a defensive position quickly if the marines need to hold one.
the IG uses them for this same purpose. a instant fortress.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 02:00:34
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Lone Cat wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Lone Cat wrote:now. about another Planetstrike product,
Fortress of Redemption
it is said that Dark Angels were the first to introduce it. and it's more or less permanent (or isn't it another prefab structures like the Bastion itself?)
also is this Space-Marines exclusive? if they do man AEGIS defense system and the Bastion. I'm not sure if IG formations did vice versa? ... manning FoD?
What are you meaning by "Space-Marines exclusive"?
If you're asking "do only Space Marines use them", then no. The Dark Angels had, apparently, during the aftermath of the Horus Heresy started to build up these 'Fortresses of Redemption' on worlds throughout the Imperium. They're intended to be defensive positions and waypoints that the Unforgiven can retreat to if they capture a fairly influential member of the Fallen and secure them until the Dark Angels can take possession of them.
Otherwise, most of the time, those fortresses are empty and utilize their automated defenses.
The Aegis defense system and the Bastion as well have automated defensive weapons, not manned ones.
yeh I mean that.
but if you said that Marines weren't the only ones allowed to use it. then is there any instances that the Imperial Guard uses one?
There's nothing saying "Only X is allowed to use it". In the field if the Guard or an Astartes Chapter see these 'abandoned' Dark Angels fortresses, usually kept off the map so the Unforgiven have something secret, there'd be nothing to prevent them from going in there and setting up shop.
We've got no specific instances of the Guard using one, but eh. So what.
and thanks for the original answer of whether the Bastion weapons are manually crewed or automated ones.
but sayin' that SM manned Aegis defence line means that they stand the blast walls
=^.^=
"Stand behind the blast walls" you mean?
Of course the Astartes would stand behind it...if they actually were holding a defensive position. Usually, they won't because defensive fights almost always end up being protracted sieges which is exactly what the Astartes are terrible at.
The Bastion weapons are automated heavy bolters mounted in the loopholes. They could likely be done up to be manually used, but I don't see why you'd want to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 02:57:10
Subject: Imperial Bastion, Aegis defence line, and fortresses : backstory and real world inspirations.
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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^ because sometimes you can't trust AI,
Veterans manning MG might exploite the weapons features to its edges.
now. about military geometry of the fortification, advantages & shortcomings of "L" shapes (Fortress of Redemption)VS sqare.
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