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Melchiour wrote:Sorry for ranting.

Kudos to you

edit: for future reference, I believe this may look like I'm coming off as an arse. Good for you for getting your family through a rough patch on your own. I just didn't want to quote the whole post.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Melissia wrote:
halonachos wrote:My dad did, in fact he had two children.
Congratulations, your dad got lucky.


Lucky? I suppose that joining the military and staying with it for 23 years and then retiring and getting a job as a diesel mechanic for a company and then joining another sailing company where he continued to work on large diesel engines until he studied hard and learned enough about various systems that he earned a two promotions is lucky. It was anything but luck Melissia, its called working hard and earning what you make. BTW he's still working at the age of 50 doing the same exact thing, going out to sea and working in 100+ degree temperatures. But yes, my father was lucky that we could live with an income of under 30k a year and he was lucky that he was willing to work hard. He worked hard to get the salary he gets now, plain and simple.

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Frazzled wrote:
darkPrince010 wrote:@halonachos: With your sales tax variant system, it seems to me that this would create an incredible incentive for a black market on anything taxed to this imaginary degree. I personally wonder how much the federal government would get from this system as oppossed to the current or "loophole-free" system, and I suspect it would be far less than our current tax revenue after you take into account a realistic percentage of revenue lost due to black market sales.

EDIT: Plus, what about debt spirals for poor people? If a series of gakky events (Car problems, disasters, bad expensive things that you didn't "choose" that insurabnce doesn't cover) exceed your ability to pay the interest on said debt? Many people can't save money because they're simply trying to pay interest on debt accumulated due to circumstances outside of their control.


That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.


You know bankruptcy doesn't wipe student debt anymore. It's insane to me that a certain type of debt is allowed to be magically immune to everything that normally matters.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


If I win the lotto I'm going to put it all in a bank and save it up just to piss Melissia off.
   
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UK

Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


Oh yeah, we should can bankruptcy as well. Make people that cant pay their debts work them off in a government owned mine or something.

If I was in charge wed be rich I tells ya! Scrap child support and make the bankrupt work 12 hour shifts in a government mine for 5 years. Thats gotta be savings/revenue in the billions right?

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
darkPrince010 wrote:@halonachos: With your sales tax variant system, it seems to me that this would create an incredible incentive for a black market on anything taxed to this imaginary degree. I personally wonder how much the federal government would get from this system as oppossed to the current or "loophole-free" system, and I suspect it would be far less than our current tax revenue after you take into account a realistic percentage of revenue lost due to black market sales.

EDIT: Plus, what about debt spirals for poor people? If a series of gakky events (Car problems, disasters, bad expensive things that you didn't "choose" that insurabnce doesn't cover) exceed your ability to pay the interest on said debt? Many people can't save money because they're simply trying to pay interest on debt accumulated due to circumstances outside of their control.


That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.


You know bankruptcy doesn't wipe student debt anymore. It's insane to me that a certain type of debt is allowed to be magically immune to everything that normally matters.


Frankly I've never seen anyone give a about their student loans. Most I have known have paid theirs off, but others didn't with no negative consequence.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
darkPrince010 wrote:@halonachos: With your sales tax variant system, it seems to me that this would create an incredible incentive for a black market on anything taxed to this imaginary degree. I personally wonder how much the federal government would get from this system as oppossed to the current or "loophole-free" system, and I suspect it would be far less than our current tax revenue after you take into account a realistic percentage of revenue lost due to black market sales.

EDIT: Plus, what about debt spirals for poor people? If a series of gakky events (Car problems, disasters, bad expensive things that you didn't "choose" that insurabnce doesn't cover) exceed your ability to pay the interest on said debt? Many people can't save money because they're simply trying to pay interest on debt accumulated due to circumstances outside of their control.


That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.


You know bankruptcy doesn't wipe student debt anymore. It's insane to me that a certain type of debt is allowed to be magically immune to everything that normally matters.


Frankly I've never seen anyone give a about their student loans. Most I have known have paid theirs off, but others didn't with no negative consequence.


Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.
   
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mattyrm wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


Oh yeah, we should can bankruptcy as well. Make people that cant pay their debts work them off in a government owned mine or something.

If I was in charge wed be rich I tells ya! Scrap child support and make the bankrupt work 12 hour shifts in a government mine for 5 years. Thats gotta be savings/revenue in the billions right?


Heck, go all the way and scrap the kids! I mean, somone will want all of that delicious and tender child meat. It isn't like we can't just have more anyway.

 
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

They're cracking down hard on student loans now, that could be the big thing. Usually people just kind of forget about them until its too late though.
   
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UK

halonachos wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


If I win the lotto I'm going to put it all in a bank and save it up just to piss Melissia off.


If I win the lotto Im going to have all poor people with more than two kids forcibly sterilised by my private army of goons.

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

The Foot wrote:
mattyrm wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


Oh yeah, we should can bankruptcy as well. Make people that cant pay their debts work them off in a government owned mine or something.

If I was in charge wed be rich I tells ya! Scrap child support and make the bankrupt work 12 hour shifts in a government mine for 5 years. Thats gotta be savings/revenue in the billions right?


Heck, go all the way and scrap the kids! I mean, somone will want all of that delicious and tender child meat. It isn't like we can't just have more anyway.


Or we could make the children work, sins of the father and all.
   
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The Great State of Texas

mattyrm wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Frazzled wrote:That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.
Quite a few banks and even hirers will reject you or give you far, far less leeway if you've had a bankruptcy, especially with unemployment as high as it is right now.


This is true, thats why it needs to be done thoughtfully. I always pondered that, if I won the Lotto, one of things I might do is provide free bankruptcy services for the poor.


Oh yeah, we should can bankruptcy as well. Make people that cant pay their debts work them off in a government owned mine or something.

If I was in charge wed be rich I tells ya! Scrap child support and make the bankrupt work 12 hour shifts in a government mine for 5 years. Thats gotta be savings/revenue in the billions right?


I don't know about Britain (well with your workhouses I do know actually), but in the US, especially in Western states, bankruptcy statutes are quite liberal. They were intentionally desinged under a second chance concept. In certain states, like Auatralia we had to take what we could get to fill up the population vacuum and steal the land from its rightful owners. So all kinds of peasants and scum of the earth came here. How else do you explain Frazzled and Texas? (ok some of that is actually true, but I left out the Comanches riding on dinosaurs part).


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
darkPrince010 wrote:@halonachos: With your sales tax variant system, it seems to me that this would create an incredible incentive for a black market on anything taxed to this imaginary degree. I personally wonder how much the federal government would get from this system as oppossed to the current or "loophole-free" system, and I suspect it would be far less than our current tax revenue after you take into account a realistic percentage of revenue lost due to black market sales.

EDIT: Plus, what about debt spirals for poor people? If a series of gakky events (Car problems, disasters, bad expensive things that you didn't "choose" that insurabnce doesn't cover) exceed your ability to pay the interest on said debt? Many people can't save money because they're simply trying to pay interest on debt accumulated due to circumstances outside of their control.


That is what bankruptcy is for, a fresh start.


You know bankruptcy doesn't wipe student debt anymore. It's insane to me that a certain type of debt is allowed to be magically immune to everything that normally matters.


Frankly I've never seen anyone give a about their student loans. Most I have known have paid theirs off, but others didn't with no negative consequence.


Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.

I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Frazzled wrote:
I don't know about Britain (well with your workhouses I do know actually), but in the US, especially in Western states, bankruptcy statutes are quite liberal. They were intentionally desinged under a second chance concept. In certain states, like Auatralia we had to take what we could get to fill up the population vacuum and steal the land from its rightful owners. So all kinds of peasants and scum of the earth came here. How else do you explain Frazzled and Texas? (ok some of that is actually true, but I left out the Comanches riding on dinosaurs part).


Frazzled, the cheapest looking glass into the past. Sure its a bit cloudy and cracked in some places, but history looks almost like it actually was. Hey its free, what are you going to complain about?
   
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Student loans are actually explicitly exempt from all of the normal debt collection laws. They're allowed to go after you a lot harder and you have no real rights.

If you go to a loan shark for a pile of money to spend on strippers, they can only harass you so much and bankruptcy is still an option, yet if you borrow for school, they own you.

That's kind of insane.
   
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halonachos wrote:They're cracking down hard on student loans now, that could be the big thing. Usually people just kind of forget about them until its too late though.


Its part of the problem with the Obama shift to government loans. If BofA comes after you, you can give 'em Matty's favorite sign. If its the US government, you have to like get lawyers and lobbyists and campaign bundlers and such.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless. That's about the nicest way I could call you out on that.

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halonachos wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I don't know about Britain (well with your workhouses I do know actually), but in the US, especially in Western states, bankruptcy statutes are quite liberal. They were intentionally desinged under a second chance concept. In certain states, like Auatralia we had to take what we could get to fill up the population vacuum and steal the land from its rightful owners. So all kinds of peasants and scum of the earth came here. How else do you explain Frazzled and Texas? (ok some of that is actually true, but I left out the Comanches riding on dinosaurs part).


Frazzled, the cheapest looking glass into the past. Sure its a bit cloudy and cracked in some places, but history looks almost like it actually was. Hey its free, what are you going to complain about?


Indeed. Looking glass yes, but you'll have to speak up as I'm a little deaf sonny.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in us
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





In your base, ignoring your logic.

Frazzled wrote:
halonachos wrote:They're cracking down hard on student loans now, that could be the big thing. Usually people just kind of forget about them until its too late though.


Its part of the problem with the Obama shift to government loans. If BofA comes after you, you can give 'em Matty's favorite sign.


Is it this one?

   
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Frazzled wrote:
halonachos wrote:They're cracking down hard on student loans now, that could be the big thing. Usually people just kind of forget about them until its too late though.


Its part of the problem with the Obama shift to government loans. If BofA comes after you, you can give 'em Matty's favorite sign. If its the US government, you have to like get lawyers and lobbyists and campaign bundlers and such.


Actually, the abusive changes to student loans were made as part of their privitization. The argument was that private companies wouldn't come in to service the loans unless we protected them. The protection in this case was allowing them to ignore the fair debt collection practices acts.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
halonachos wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
halonachos wrote:They're cracking down hard on student loans now, that could be the big thing. Usually people just kind of forget about them until its too late though.


Its part of the problem with the Obama shift to government loans. If BofA comes after you, you can give 'em Matty's favorite sign.


Is it this one?



TBone approves.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in us
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Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


No, you brought up the people you knew with student loans. That's meaningless anecdotal evidence. It's not useful in an argument.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


No, you brought up the people you knew with student loans. That's meaningless anecdotal evidence. It's not useful in an argument.


Wait we're having an argument? I don't have arguments unless I'm getting the standard US$450 an hour. Where should I send the bill?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in us
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





In your base, ignoring your logic.

Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


No, you brought up the people you knew with student loans. That's meaningless anecdotal evidence. It's not useful in an argument.


Wait we're having an argument? I don't have arguments unless I'm getting the standard US$450 an hour. Where should I send the bill?


Rented, I think Frazzled is a lawyer or something like that so he gets paid to argue. If he isn't a lawyer then he probably works at a Dairy Queen and gets paid to argue with the customers in a heated debate that causes them to want ice cream.
   
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The Great State of Texas

halonachos wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


No, you brought up the people you knew with student loans. That's meaningless anecdotal evidence. It's not useful in an argument.


Wait we're having an argument? I don't have arguments unless I'm getting the standard US$450 an hour. Where should I send the bill?


Rented, I think Frazzled is a lawyer or something like that so he gets paid to argue. If he isn't a lawyer then he probably works at a Dairy Queen and gets paid to argue with the customers in a heated debate that causes them to want ice cream.

Mmmm ice cream. There is a Third Option. I argue with them until their heads explode and then I rifle through their pockets for loose change. of course that may just be my side job I started to pay for all the food my kids eat.

On the positive I did have some cake at 8.30AM. Thats pretty bad, even for me.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in us
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Rented Tritium wrote:Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.

Is there some objective measure we can use to separate out "those who can't" repay their students loans from "those who don't want to" repay?

If so, why did we give them student loans in the first place? If not, why should we give "those who don't want to" a free ride?

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

biccat wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.

Is there some objective measure we can use to separate out "those who can't" repay their students loans from "those who don't want to" repay?

If so, why did we give them student loans in the first place? If not, why should we give "those who don't want to" a free ride?


Why should we use money, why can't we barter for an education. I'm sure that a state college education is worth about 200 chickens or maybe 300 bushels of barley.
   
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The Great State of Texas

halonachos wrote:
biccat wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.

Is there some objective measure we can use to separate out "those who can't" repay their students loans from "those who don't want to" repay?

If so, why did we give them student loans in the first place? If not, why should we give "those who don't want to" a free ride?


Why should we use money, why can't we barter for an education. I'm sure that a state college education is worth about 200 chickens or maybe 300 bushels of barley.


220. It went up this year.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in us
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halonachos wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I sense a few boos from the peanut gallery. Who pissed in your cornflakes?


It's anecdotal evidence, meaningless.

You mean this thread or the internet?

Run up your credit cards to pay off the student then file?


No, you brought up the people you knew with student loans. That's meaningless anecdotal evidence. It's not useful in an argument.


Wait we're having an argument? I don't have arguments unless I'm getting the standard US$450 an hour. Where should I send the bill?


Rented, I think Frazzled is a lawyer or something like that so he gets paid to argue. If he isn't a lawyer then he probably works at a Dairy Queen and gets paid to argue with the customers in a heated debate that causes them to want ice cream.

Oh, I was thinking he might be John Cleese
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Frazzled wrote:
halonachos wrote:
biccat wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:Fortunately for the millions that can't, we don't set evidence based economic policy on what forums poster frazzled has personally seen.

Is there some objective measure we can use to separate out "those who can't" repay their students loans from "those who don't want to" repay?

If so, why did we give them student loans in the first place? If not, why should we give "those who don't want to" a free ride?


Why should we use money, why can't we barter for an education. I'm sure that a state college education is worth about 200 chickens or maybe 300 bushels of barley.


220. It went up this year.


Gosh darn it, guess I'm just going to have to make the extra 20 up with carrots.
   
 
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