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masterjock wrote:Id arther go up against this than a unit of 3 oblits!

One way or another its up to Sean.

Whats so scary about oblits? Arn't they just like BS5 long fangs?

IHateNids wrote:Whats so scary about oblits? Arn't they just like BS5 Devastators?

Fixed!

and kind of, sort of.

Terminators with Power Fists and 3 different Heavy Weapons and multiwounds.

So they arn't that Hard. What's thier toughness? I'm assuming 6, so force weapons should mince them

^ Toughness 6 bahaha. No they are only toughness 4 but I belive you can give them mark of nurgle for toughness 5.

Ok so ID from Lascannons. Not very scary at all IMHO

5+ invul can stop them. But if you take the mark of nurgle its tougness 5 so thats a railgun you need. Just cause ther instant deathable doesnt mean they arent a threat. My main commander can be instant deathed. So can mephiston but you remember how that went. xD

Don't remind me

RatWolf wrote:One way or another its up to Sean.

@Geordie09 Just remember Sean likes chocolate (lots of chocolate).

Yea I like chocolate although there are still people who owe me chocolate
To be honest I love the model and think its kinda canny rules wise BUT before you all start to worry as its experimental I'm gonna have to say no and set my bribe limit in the region of the entire worlds supply of cadburys mini eggs,
Happy are you still wanting to use the thingy you mentioned earlier ????
Can you forward the rules and have you got the model ?

If there are no definitive rules by then ill use it as a dprince or dread, whatever... I couldn't provide the worlds supply of mini eggs, cos i'd have eaten most of them if i had them.

Obliterators shouldn't be underestimated. DS melta tastic, and you can go on about force weapons and insta kills etc but if they've done the damage before theyre taken out...

Wittman79 wrote:Yea I like chocolate although there are still people who owe me chocolate
To be honest I love the model and think its kinda canny rules wise BUT before you all start to worry as its experimental I'm gonna have to say no and set my bribe limit in the region of the entire worlds supply of cadburys mini eggs,
Happy are you still wanting to use the thingy you mentioned earlier ????
Can you forward the rules and have you got the model ?

What the warhound?

That would make me the happyst boy in the village ...

Meh Its just I do have the model but im not sure if I want to use it since I dont have the rules for it.

happygolucky wrote:Meh Its just I do have the model but im not sure if I want to use it since I dont have the rules for it.

I will PM the rules to You and Sean when I get home as I cant remember the stats and put a synopsis on here. All I remember just now is you need to have a beserker squad in your army to field one.




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The Blood Slaughterer is a Front AV 13 "Dreadnought" that has fleet, can be taken in a squadron of 1-3 and suffers from rage. No ranged damage weapons but can have a harpoon that drags the target 2D6 towards it. Cost comparable to a Vendetta

Hey guys.

im running a doubles tournament if anyone is interested

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/438056.page#4058278

thanks in advance

Reading the Tourny Pack.

im assuming the ''+1 pt for painted armies'' is a typo if anything?

I swear I took that out but not no bonuses for fully painted armies just pride

Here's something i found too:

"Armies will be selected using the relevant codex and should not exceed 1750/2000 points"

Just thought you'd like to know

So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Quoted for Truth

RatWolf wrote:Tyranids:Friendly Games - 1/0/0

Friendly? You ripped my Elysians apart, at least it was another glorious last stand for D-99

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So this Tourney pack is one big typo is it?

Oh dear, this won't end well.

Nids, grown ups have other things to worry about than spelling mistakes and the odd cut and paste error.

edited to sound more condescending but keeping a hint of humour

Love it Hesh
Nids there looks to be a problem either the shop has uploaded wrong one or you have there are some mistakes in what I sent will show you tomorrow when I hit you I mean see you !!!!!

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:Oh dear, this won't end well.

Never said anything in a bad way. Just pointing out what other people have said. Maybe I should have put a on the end to show a joke...

Wittman79 wrote:
Nids, there looks to be a problem. Either the shop has uploaded the wrong one or there are some mistakes in what I sent. I will show you tomorrow when I hit you (I mean see you!)

I assume that this is what you meant.
And thanks

Anyone got any list ideas that include IA units??

It's a bit off topic but if you guys would like to attend a 40k narrative campaign in mansfield then please check my link.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440020.page

Still hoping to attend Seaham in june, just waiting for leave to be confirmed!

In my opinion, IA units are for themed IA specific armies are they not?

Which is a question of context, what may be balanced in context of a themed army may not be balanced in the context of the larger game?
Points alone do not necessarily reflect balance. Not everyone has access to Forge World models, as they tend to be expensive. This in my opinion is excluding a portion of the player base.

It would be fair to say that everyone has access to GW models and codexes\FAQ’s? This isn’t excluding anyone.
Forge world models\rule have a place, but in a 40K tournament level the playing field, don’t make it exclusive. A 40K tournament in my opinion should only include BRB, codex and FAQ rules\units. This makes it fair to everyone. As the codex armies in the 40K system are designed to competitive which each other are they not?

Furthermore it’s far easier to exclude, non-codex rules models than to have people include them.
This is just my opinion, as is expressed as such, feel free to offer a counter-point.

firstname_lastname wrote:In my opinion, IA units are for themed IA specific armies are they not?

Which is a question of context, what may be balanced in context of a themed army may not be balanced in the context of the larger game?
Points alone do not necessarily reflect balance. Not everyone has access to Forge World models, as they tend to be expensive. This in my opinion is excluding a portion of the player base.

It would be fair to say that everyone has access to GW models and codexes\FAQ’s? This isn’t excluding anyone.
Forge world models\rule have a place, but in a 40K tournament level the playing field, don’t make it exclusive. A 40K tournament in my opinion should only include BRB, codex and FAQ rules\units. This makes it fair to everyone. As the codex armies in the 40K system are designed to competitive which each other are they not?

Furthermore it’s far easier to exclude, non-codex rules models than to have people include them.
This is just my opinion, as is expressed as such, feel free to offer a counter-point.

Counter-Point:

We've had alot of just...normal 40k tournies.

The TO decided we'd have one last send off, and do something off-key.

We don't usually have FW units.

Granted, no, not everyone has the money for full IA armies, but, in this case, no one is really bothered, as the tournament isn't a big, hard and heavy, WAAC, competitive dash to the ''I-won-but-made-no-friends-along-the-way'' finish line.

P.S., no of this was said in a negative manner, it was simply, as you said, a counter-point.

Fair point, i'll refine and re-iterate the salient points for clarity.

forge world unit\rules that have been specificically designed to work with exsisting codexes i have no issue with, hopefully they have been balanced through play testing (i still believe that forge world\games workshop employees get this more or less correct) What i do think you have to be careful with are units\rules that are designed to work with a specific themed army and other easy abusable units (i believe super heavies were mentioned earlier), these can be potentially game breaking if used in collaboration with the codex armies. As you gain the advantages but non of the disadvantages.

in my opinion the easiest way to ensure all armies are competetive is to only allow codex armies, as the codex armies are a know quantity, and have been balanced in terms of the game.

Obviously this is up to the tournament organiser. If its done fairly and intelligently then i dont think it will be a problem.

Well superheavies have been disallowed
And units have to be approved by me to prevent stupid units being used

Wittman - can i check - are you content with the following tau units - sentry towers, remote sensor towers, tetras, remoras, and TX-42s?

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