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CptJake wrote:Was the statement made she never held a job otr 'She never worked a day in her life"

Again, expressions can have more than one meaning and we can only know what that meaning is by context. Read this again, or for the first time

Manchu wrote:"I hit the roof" can mean that I punched the top of someone's house or that I got very angry. "She's never worked a day in her life" can mean that she's has literally never performed any kind of action to achieve a result or it can mean that she has never held a job.

CptJake wrote:Also clarify how Mr. Mod sees volunteer work as non-work.

I said volunteering is not a job. You just quoted me on that, although I cannot assume that means you read what I posted.


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Frazzled wrote:Son, you better think about that definition before you get married. Your wife will terminate your ass if you tell her only making money is a job, that raising the kids is not a job.

I am married. My mother-in-law was a stay-at-home mom of five. She also home schooled the youngest three. She did not have a job. This does not mean or even imply that what she did has no dignity or took no effort.

Oh ho don't tell her she didn't have a job. You will payyyyy...

Her evaluation of the dignity and worth of her life is not based on the misuse of a word.

We're going to have to agree to disagree Manchu since it appears to me that you hold the belief that you can only be knowledgable about something if you've experienced it we're never going to agree.

Manchu wrote:Her evaluation of the dignity and worth of her life is not based on the misuse of a word.

Thats al well and good, but don't tell her that.

Hulksmash wrote:We're going to have to agree to disagree Manchu since it appears to me that you hold the belief that you can only be knowledgable about something if you've experienced it we're never going to agree.

I don't think you have grasped what I am saying:

Grakmar wrote:People can understand, sympathize, and want to correct the plight of others without having to go through it themselves.

Manchu wrote:I 100% agree that you don't need personal experience of social misery to be passionately committed to alleviating it. The argument that this commentator made was premised on the idea that a sign of being committed is listening to the people who do have that personal experience. The commentator pointed out that Romney substituted talking to his wife for this, which shows (and I think this is a great point) that Romney thinks "being a woman" in 2012 has nothing to do with, for example, holding a job. For Romney, a woman who has never held a job can apparently speak competently on behalf of the great majority of women who have done.

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Frazzled wrote:

Manchu wrote:Her evaluation of the dignity and worth of her life is not based on the misuse of a word.

Thats al well and good, but don't tell her that.

She actually taught me that. Listening to women is a good thing.

First off: Someone involved in politics said something stupid?

And?

Some of you are excited/outraged/surprised rather easily.

Also it is highly amusing that many of the same individuals that have been falling all over themselves to make excuses for a whole range of outrageous/racist/zealous/homophobic/idiotic/inappropriate statements by the opposition ( many of them spoken by the actual candidates, not some random person as in this case) in thread after thread now want us to believe that we should see this as over the line?

Could I please have some of whatever you guys are smoking?

CT GAMER wrote:First off: Someone involved in politics said something stupid?

The comment struck me as pretty smart.

Manchu wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:First off: Someone involved in politics said something stupid?

The comment struck me as pretty smart.

Even if one has smart things to say, from a political standpoint one must consider how and when one says them, and if it is your place to say them.

CT GAMER wrote:
Some of you are excited/outraged/surprised rather easily.

Says the guy that posted a video of Santorum not and/or almost saying something.

AustonT wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:
Some of you are excited/outraged/surprised rather easily.

Says the guy that posted a video of Santorum not and/or almost saying something.

Thanks for proving my point.


As to the link I posted: I posted for discussion and didn't make any initial statement, I asked for opinions(hence the question marks)

Notice this thread states he is a hack and starts off with the assumption.

There is a difference.

CT GAMER wrote:Even if one has smart things to say, from a political standpoint one must consider how and when one says them, and if it is your place to say them.

Mrs. Romney could be offended by the comment if she really wanted to misunderstand it. I am disgusted that the Obama Campaign has criticized the comment.

Personally I'm against involving families in politics however it seems in this case Romney brought his wife into the game and she got attacked after that.

It would have been classier to leave her out of any replies, of course.

When you elect a president you elect his wife to First Lady too, so you should probably think about her. (Which is why Romney brought his wife into play.)

Mitt Romney positioned the rhetoric so that it was impossible not to bring up the fact that Ann Romney has never had a job. Not addressing it would not be "classier." It would be pretending that Mitt Romney treating his totally unrepresentative wife as representative of American women is okay.

CT GAMER wrote:

AustonT wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:
Some of you are excited/outraged/surprised rather easily.

Says the guy that posted a video of Santorum not and/or almost saying something.

Thanks for proving my point.


As to the link I posted: I posted for discussion and didn't make any initial statement, I asked for opinions(hence the question marks)

Notice this thread states he is a hack and starts off with the assumption.

There is a difference.

Yes, I said SHE is a hack, a political hack. Its her job.


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Manchu wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Even if one has smart things to say, from a political standpoint one must consider how and when one says them, and if it is your place to say them.

Mrs. Romney could be offended by the comment if she really wanted to misunderstand it. I am disgusted that the Obama Campaign has criticized the comment.

Because if they play this wrong, they could almost instantly lose the soccer mom vote. That would motivate me.

CT GAMER wrote:

AustonT wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:
Some of you are excited/outraged/surprised rather easily.

Says the guy that posted a video of Santorum not and/or almost saying something.

Thanks for proving my point.


As to the link I posted: I posted for discussion and didn't make any initial statement, I asked for opinions(hence the question marks)

Notice this thread states he is a hack and starts off with the assumption.

There is a difference.

now that I know you didn't bother to read or watch the OP, the statement was made by a woman about a woman. Well...if you consider Hilary Rosen a woman.

Last I checked Frazz is a man.

I stated that my thread had a topic line asking a question: did he say it?

Frazz claims in his title that it is an attack rather then asking if it is an attack or goes too far.

I never referenced the clip itself in my post.

Frazzled wrote:Yes, I said SHE is a hack, a political hack. Its her job.

Does that make you a forum hack on a volunteer basis? Furthermore, would calling you such be an attack?

Manchu wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Yes, I said SHE is a hack, a political hack. Its her job.

Does that make you a forum hack on a volunteer basis? Furthermore, would calling you such be an attack?

Unfortunately its not paid, so its not a job.

I did say it was on a volunteer basis.

Manchu wrote:I did say it was on a volunteer basis.

So are you saying I am a hack attack or an attack hack? If by asking are you you in fact attacking the attack hack (or was it hack attack?) since you're not paid would you say its a hack attack on an attack hack?

Did that clear it up?

I'm asking you to tell me which of those, if any, you are.

Manchu wrote:I'm asking you to tell me which of those, if any, you are.

I am Frazzled, Lord of all hacks. fear my golf game ye Mighty and Despair!*




*For the record a young Frazzled did get a hole in 1 when he was 12 on a par 3 using a five iron. My old man even gave me a beer.

CT GAMER wrote:... not some random person as in this case...

Actually, this random person has been to the white house about 36 times and has met with Obama 3-4 times, and worked with Dunn to bring us the Fluke flap.

This random person said Mrs. Romney has never worked a day in her life, which suggests class warfare. The semantic two-step burning up this thread is merely to distract from the left's war on conservative women, ably illustrated by the left's Palin hysteria.

Cheers!

Somewhere, Chongara's head just exploded.

Menwhile, jobless claims rise.

What is a jobless claim?


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Nevermind, I looked it up on wikipedia and found it meant exactly what I thought: how many people have filed for unemployment benefits.

Manchu wrote:What is a jobless claim?


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Nevermind, I looked it up on wikipedia and found it meant exactly what I thought: how many people have filed for unemployment benefits.

Did wiki mention that Obama has wiped 2.3 million jobs off the rolls since he's been in office? That's why the unemployment rate that gets reported is below 9%.

Cheers,

No. But to be fair it didn't mention anything about roller coasters or octopuses or tambourines and so I think it might have been biased.

Manchu wrote:No. But to be fair it didn't mention anything about roller coasters or octopuses or tambourines and so I think it might have been biased.

Dude, rollercoaster jobs are hard to get!