World of Warcraft hobby sparks US political row

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**kronk**

Chongara wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

Now thats executive thinking. Also poker, for cash.

No sir. Gambling is mighty wicked, just like computer games. Did you know that "Game" actually lets you steal other people's souls to feed DEMONS. It's true. I for one could never support a politician that wants nothing more to to damn us all to hell so she can get some kind of "Epic Lute". She should buy her musical instruments down at the store like all good normal, god-fearing folks. Without all that soul-sucking a demon worship.

Is this YakFace's sock puppet account? Are we getting trolled by YakFace?

**Frazzled**

Jihadin wrote:
So imaginary killing is worse than real killing?

Either being funny or you really live a shelter life

Homeless or screened camping shelter? I hope there are showers.

**d3m01iti0n**

Hunting is only acceptable if its done with your bare hands.

**George Spiggott**

I'm still waiting for Milllibean, er... band to come out as a D'n'D player.

**Manchu**

I concur, Chongara. The next thing you know, 47% of "Americans" (I'll need some ID to confirm that of course!) will feel entitled to Epic Lutes. Why, it's enough to dislodge the gilt monocle from my otherwise benevolent orbital.

**Easy E**

Fraz, this is the most effective trolling you have done in a long time.

I salute you.

**Frazzled**

Easy E wrote:
Fraz, this is the most effective trolling you have done in a long time.

I salute you.

One must take pride in their work.

**Jihadin**

Think she apply "Auctioneer" to the state econmy? Rogues are a bit shady you know....My pally scared of them but my DK just luvs them.

**Seaward**

Frazzled wrote:
Actually its mostly just shooting 115 grain roundnose, and being bossed around by an 8lb terminal cancer wiener dog at this point.

It's been too long since we've had a gun thread to make the Brits uncomfortable.

**Coolyo294**

Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.

When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Coolyo294 wrote:
Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.
When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

Why's that? Isn't that the quickest way to kill one?

**KalashnikovMarine**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.
When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

Why's that? Isn't that the quickest way to kill one?

It's also the easiest shot to MISS.

**whembly**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.
When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

Why's that? Isn't that the quickest way to kill one?

It's also the easiest shot to MISS.

Yeah... I thought it's easier to shoot center mass (the heart)??

Granted, I've only hunted a few times... but I've never been taught to "aim" at the head.

**Jihadin**

Might mess up the antlers..eerrr skull structure if you wanted the head mounted on a wall.

**Coolyo294**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.
When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

Why's that? Isn't that the quickest way to kill one?

If you hit it in the brain, yes. But it's very easy to miss the brain and instead hit something like the eyes or the jaw, which will not kill the deer outright but still doom it to very long, drawn out death by starvation

**CthuluIsSpy**

Coolyo294 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
Chongara wrote:
Like shooting wildlife in the head.
When hunting deer, I've actually found that the head is the last place you want to shoot at.

Why's that? Isn't that the quickest way to kill one?
If you hit it in the brain, yes. But it's very easy to miss the brain and instead hit something like the eyes or the jaw, which will not kill the deer outright but still doom it to very long, drawn out death by starvation

Oh I see. Yeah, that makes sense.

**Monster Rain**

I read this whole thread.

My thoughts:

This is a foolish thing to attack a political candidate over.

Maine pretty much sucks. I can't really think of a reason, other than Acadia, to even go there. If you're looking for a New England beach trip go to Rhode Island instead. Unless you go all the way to the "downeast" region. That's a really cool place to visit in a creepy and desolate sort of way.

Guns are awesome.

And finally:

Frazzled is 75% of why I even come into the OT anymore.

**Harriticus**

In CT Dems have been running anti-Linda McMahon ads for her association wioth "violent and sexist" professional wrestling, complete with "concerned mothers" talking about how immoral WWE is. Welcome to cheap politics.

**Kilkrazy**

One can hardly equate the two cases.

There is an obvious difference between being a player of a videogame and being a professional promoter and director of a company.

If Linda McMahon were attacked for playing the WWE game, that would be worthy of comparison.

Perhaps you consider that WWE is not violent and sexist.

**ShumaGorath**

Monster Rain wrote:
I read this whole thread.

My thoughts:

This is a foolish thing to attack a political candidate over.

Maine pretty much sucks. I can't really think of a reason, other than Acadia, to even go there. If you're looking for a New England beach trip go to Rhode Island instead. Unless you go all the way to the "downeast" region. That's a really cool place to visit in a creepy and desolate sort of way.

Guns are awesome.

And finally:

Frazzled is 75% of why I even come into the OT anymore.

Acadia isn't worth it. Maine is where dreams go to die.

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Harriticus wrote:
In CT Dems have been running anti-Linda McMahon ads for her association wioth "violent and sexist" professional wrestling, complete with "concerned mothers" talking about how immoral WWE is. Welcome to cheap politics.

Welcome to terrible logical holes and awful arguments that betray a lack of critical thinking.

**SagesStone**

I thought Harr had been in the OT a fair few times by now.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Shuma for once I'll agree with you. Ever since I did winter survival training up there I've despised the state.

**Seaward**

ShumaGorath wrote:

Welcome to terrible logical holes and awful arguments that betray a lack of critical thinking.

What's the logical hole?

**sebster**

I would understand running against a WoW player on the impression they just sit the 10 hours a day clicking a mouse watching a bar go up, burning away time. It isn't true of all WoW players, but it's a common perception and probably true of enough of them to be worth throwing some campaign dollars out there.

But campaigning based on the idea that backstabbing in a game would only be done by an immoral person? That's just goofy.

Harriticus wrote:
In CT Dems have been running anti-Linda McMahon ads for her association wioth "violent and sexist" professional wrestling, complete with "concerned mothers" talking about how immoral WWE is. Welcome to cheap politics.

Hang on, are you claiming wrestling isn't sexist? Seriously?

I mean, I understand someone saying 'yeah it's sexist but feth it, I don't care', but just pretending it isn't sexist? That's ridiculous.

**Fafnir**

Frazzled wrote:
If you're over 25 and still playing video games, there's a problem.

Just to point something out, (in 2010) the average age of video-game players in the US is 34, with 49% of players falling within the 18-45 demographic. I'd imagine that it hasn't changed much in the past two years.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_Essential_Facts_2010.PDF
(2010 is just the one I have on hand, you can probably find a more up-to-date document on the ESA's website)

**Easy E**

Fafnir wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
If you're over 25 and still playing video games, there's a problem.

Just to point something out, (in 2010) the average age of video-game players in the US is 34, with 49% of players falling within the 18-45 demographic. I'd imagine that it hasn't changed much in the past two years.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_Essential_Facts_2010.PDF
(2010 is just the one I have on hand, you can probably find a more up-to-date document on the ESA's website)

Since that waas two years ago, I would bet the average age is now 36.

**reds8n**

..Only as this is a WoW thread anyway...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19869466

Hackers have massacred all the virtual characters in some of online adventure game World of Warcraft's major cities.

They appear to have created a character able to destroy those of other players and those controlled by the game.

Game creator Blizzard Activision has appealed for information, but added: "This exploit has already been hot-fixed, so it should not be repeatable."

More than 10 million subscribers play World of Warcraft (WoW), almost half are believed to be in China.

Numbers had dipped from a peak of 12 million in 2010 to 9.1 million at the beginning of 2012, but have swelled since the release at the end of September of an expansion called the Mists of Pandaria.

Writing in an online forum, Blizzard said it was taking the action "very seriously".

"Earlier today, certain realms were affected by an in-game exploit, resulting in the deaths of player characters and non-player characters in some of the major cities," wrote a representative going by the name of Nethaera, on Sunday.

Olivia Grace, contributing editor of website WoW Insider, said: "It was a significant hack.

"They discovered a method to roll a level-one [beginner] character, which ran to the major cities.

"We don't know exactly what they did, but somehow they were able to kill every single player's character in that city and every single computer controlled character - and they were doing this repeatedly."

Ms Grace said she believed the same hackers had attacked WoW before but not to this extent, with characters being destroyed again after "reincarnation" as is normal within the confines of the game.

.... this is pretty much the plot of the South park episode isn't it ?

On the plus side I guess we can await the Reps. from the first story to call for the death penalty for genocide eh ?

**Hlaine Larkin mk2**

reds8n wrote:
..Only as this is a WoW thread anyway...

Spoiler:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19869466

Hackers have massacred all the virtual characters in some of online adventure game World of Warcraft's major cities.

They appear to have created a character able to destroy those of other players and those controlled by the game.

Game creator Blizzard Activision has appealed for information, but added: "This exploit has already been hot-fixed, so it should not be repeatable."

More than 10 million subscribers play World of Warcraft (WoW), almost half are believed to be in China.

Numbers had dipped from a peak of 12 million in 2010 to 9.1 million at the beginning of 2012, but have swelled since the release at the end of September of an expansion called the Mists of Pandaria.

Writing in an online forum, Blizzard said it was taking the action "very seriously".

"Earlier today, certain realms were affected by an in-game exploit, resulting in the deaths of player characters and non-player characters in some of the major cities," wrote a representative going by the name of Nethaera, on Sunday.

Olivia Grace, contributing editor of website WoW Insider, said: "It was a significant hack.

"They discovered a method to roll a level-one [beginner] character, which ran to the major cities.

"We don't know exactly what they did, but somehow they were able to kill every single player's character in that city and every single computer controlled character - and they were doing this repeatedly."

Ms Grace said she believed the same hackers had attacked WoW before but not to this extent, with characters being destroyed again after "reincarnation" as is normal within the confines of the game.

.... this is pretty much the plot of the South park episode isn't it ?

On the plus side I guess we can await the Reps. from the first story to call for the death penalty for genocide eh ?

That literally popped into my head the moment I read the second line

**Jihadin**

Maybe China players took offense for the Panda monk?

**Frazzled**

Fafnir wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
If you're over 25 and still playing video games, there's a problem.

Just to point something out, (in 2010) the average age of video-game players in the US is 34, with 49% of players falling within the 18-45 demographic. I'd imagine that it hasn't changed much in the past two years.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_Essential_Facts_2010.PDF
(2010 is just the one I have on hand, you can probably find a more up-to-date document on the ESA's website)

RIse of videogames, fall of the US Empire. Is there a coincidence??? muahahah!