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2012/11/05 16:48:49
Subject: Re:Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
whembly wrote: So... is our voting process as fair as it can be? Yeah... probably. But I will say there's always room for improvement.
So, why ar ewe afraid of election observers from other countries then? I seem to have lost the point somewhere?
1. Its illegal.
2. See #1 above.
3. Its dern ferreners. We don't cotton to no dern ferreners round here.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/05 16:59:09
Subject: Re:Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
I heard somewhere that the largest group of UN workers are Canadians.
And you are all taking the stance that somehow this is to criticize US elections. If you are so great, they'll just use you as a model when offering suggestions to other countries...
Still, no one explained to me why True the Vote can observe and seem to be allowed to go wherever they want, while UN rep can't.
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[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/11/05 17:10:47
Subject: Re:Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
I heard somewhere that the largest group of UN workers are Canadians.
And you are all taking the stance that somehow this is to criticize US elections. If you are so great, they'll just use you as a model when offering suggestions to other countries...
Still, no one explained to me why True the Vote can observe and seem to be allowed to go wherever they want, while UN rep can't.
Because toe jam is better than the UN?
Why are you assuming they were allowed to go somewhere other as a voter, or even exist. Note - you're referencing another thread with no video proof. Me no believe them even there says big chief Frazzled.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/05 17:19:38
Subject: Re:Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
I think that's because you expect the UN to have the same power as any other governmental entity, which it can't, and not due to any fault of its own.
Why are you assuming they were allowed to go somewhere other as a voter, or even exist. Note - you're referencing another thread with no video proof. Me no believe them even there says big chief Frazzled.
Ah well, that makes Big Chief Frazzled a whole lot more sensible than most would say.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/11/05 17:58:25
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
WarOne wrote: Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
Right... but you're missing the point.
They have no right to observe unless the state/federal invites them.
We're like one big American Family... we're like the family that constantly argues and fight with one another...
But, if an outsider tries to butt-in... that entire family forgets what they were fighting about and turns on the outsider.
Just saying... we take care of our own here...
Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
2012/11/05 18:29:17
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
WarOne wrote: Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
Internaitonal treaties are utterly irrelevant to the US Constitution.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/05 18:42:37
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
WarOne wrote: Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
Internaitonal treaties are utterly irrelevant to the US Constitution.
Yeah, it's not like you enter them willingly, by representatives of your government.
Or that you don't use them to sue other countries in international courts...
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/11/05 18:51:53
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
WarOne wrote: Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
Internaitonal treaties are utterly irrelevant to the US Constitution.
Yeah, it's not like you enter them willingly, by representatives of your government.
Or that you don't use them to sue other countries in international courts...
Thats the point! We don't trust the government, nor its representatives. Thats why we have the Bill of RIghts. Thank you Paranoid drafters of the Constitution - hurray!
And whats awesome is that politicians can't use international treaties to take away US citizen's rights under the US Constitution.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/05 18:59:56
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
WarOne wrote: Funny, isn't this an organization that the United States is a participating nation in this organization and ratified all the major charters the organization has put forth?
Also, aren't Americans employed in this organization as well?
Internaitonal treaties are utterly irrelevant to the US Constitution.
Yeah, it's not like you enter them willingly, by representatives of your government.
Or that you don't use them to sue other countries in international courts...
Thats the point! We don't trust the government, nor its representatives. Thats why we have the Bill of RIghts. Thank you Paranoid drafters of the Constitution - hurray!
And whats awesome is that politicians can't use international treaties to take away US citizen's rights under the US Constitution.
Can I ditto that?
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2012/11/05 19:06:00
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
I swear, keeping eye contact with Samwell for the entire clip is one of the most impossible feat in the world, and should be rewarded with instant riches and fame.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/11/05 19:14:50
Subject: Now IOWA warns Evil Mad Scientist type International election observers
