Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

You can't really compare the hammerhead to IG though. It's points are higher than they should be due to age, primary weapon options are limited to the railgun and a few forgeworld turrets, and secondary weapons are laughable at best. I don't think that makes it bad by any standard.

But the hammerhead can fire as a fast skimmer, ignore terrain checks completely (Next game I'm parking that sucker on a building) can deliver a lot of pain to infantry and heavy vehicles, is very resilient, and is fairly easy to fit into a list. I doubt the IG tank could move 12", fire the template weapon, and get a 3+ cover easy. If it is a scoring unit in Big Guns, its amazing because its so fast and resilient to enemy fire. This one tank can easily claim an objective or get line breaker. I never play without one.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
You can't really compare the hammerhead to IG though. It's points are higher than they should be due to age, primary weapon options are limited to the railgun and a few forgeworld turrets, and secondary weapons are laughable at best. I don't think that makes it bad by any standard.

Why can't I make the comparison?

And I didn't say the Hammerhead is bad, I said it isn't amazing.

I doubt the IG tank could move 12", fire the template weapon, and get a 3+ cover easy. If it is a scoring unit in Big Guns, its amazing because its so fast and resilient to enemy fire. This one tank can easily claim an objective or get line breaker. I never play without one.

No, but the Griffon can hit pretty much anywhere on the table it wants without moving, has better accuracy, gets to barrage snipe, ignores a lot of cover, and gets a 0+ cover save thanks to being out of LOS and immune to return fire. And it's still a scoring unit.

And the worst part about this? Despite being half the price of the Hammerhead the consensus among IG players is that the Griffon is too weak to include in a serious IG list. If that's not a sign of bottom-tier status for Tau I don't know what is.

I guess I'll have to concede that. I'm probably just looking at the Hammerhead as being good compared to what's in the Tau dex as opposed to what it should be in the current environment.