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 Empchild wrote:


You need to find a new shop as I sell that whole box at $28.50... just saying. Proof====>

Spoiler:

http://www.battleroadhobbies.com/gw-40k-orks/?sort=featured&page=2

Also, Emp offers a membership program to drop prices further and give you better rates on FREE SHIPPING- so bulk buying becomes even better!

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:


You need to find a new shop as I sell that whole box at $28.50... just saying. Proof====>

Spoiler:

http://www.battleroadhobbies.com/gw-40k-orks/?sort=featured&page=2

Also, Emp offers a membership program to drop prices further and give you better rates on FREE SHIPPING- so bulk buying becomes even better!

Just posted a bitz sale too as honestly I find this all kinda funny...and I used to work for GW too!

 Empchild wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:


You need to find a new shop as I sell that whole box at $28.50... just saying. Proof====>

Spoiler:

http://www.battleroadhobbies.com/gw-40k-orks/?sort=featured&page=2

Also, Emp offers a membership program to drop prices further and give you better rates on FREE SHIPPING- so bulk buying becomes even better!

Just posted a bitz sale too as honestly I find this all kinda funny...and I used to work for GW too!

Really, your mini-rule book prices are some of the best around as well for DV.

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:


You need to find a new shop as I sell that whole box at $28.50... just saying. Proof====>

Spoiler:

http://www.battleroadhobbies.com/gw-40k-orks/?sort=featured&page=2

Also, Emp offers a membership program to drop prices further and give you better rates on FREE SHIPPING- so bulk buying becomes even better!

Just posted a bitz sale too as honestly I find this all kinda funny...and I used to work for GW too!

Really, your mini-rule book prices are some of the best around as well for DV.

I know, probably why I can never keep the things in stock. Bits rule and yes it is a lot of work doing them especially how I do them because all are bagged labeled and hung up. It adds some cost but makes for a better work environment. I did have one employee a couple years back quit after a month because he couldn't keep up cutting 9 battleforces a day. This mind you was when I did ebay. It's a lot of work but honestly you have to have a love for it because if you don't then you won't survive.

As a co-owner of store with OP, I have glanced at this paperwork and confirm post as factual. Ask your FLGS owner..

 Empchild wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 Empchild wrote:


You need to find a new shop as I sell that whole box at $28.50... just saying. Proof====>

Spoiler:

http://www.battleroadhobbies.com/gw-40k-orks/?sort=featured&page=2

Also, Emp offers a membership program to drop prices further and give you better rates on FREE SHIPPING- so bulk buying becomes even better!

Just posted a bitz sale too as honestly I find this all kinda funny...and I used to work for GW too!

Really, your mini-rule book prices are some of the best around as well for DV.

I know, probably why I can never keep the things in stock. Bits rule and yes it is a lot of work doing them especially how I do them because all are bagged labeled and hung up. It adds some cost but makes for a better work environment. I did have one employee a couple years back quit after a month because he couldn't keep up cutting 9 battleforces a day. This mind you was when I did ebay. It's a lot of work but honestly you have to have a love for it because if you don't then you won't survive.

So is it possible to do a quick breakdown of how much it costs to do all this with your current business model in place?

 Old Man Ultramarine wrote:
As a co-owner of store with OP, I have glanced at this paperwork and confirm post as factual. Ask your FLGS owner..

And all the other shenanigans like not being able to sell to anyone under 14?

So the big question is whether or not this will affect buying my bitz from The Warstore. They may be somewhat expensive, but I use them for many small projects, and this will put a huge damper in my side of the hobby- modelling and converting.

I seriously think GW's business method is becoming a process of going up to a person, asking them if they play any GW games, and if they say "yes, I really like your games", punching them in the mouth and walking away saying, "good".

I wonder if that has more to do with hobby supplies like, knives, glue, snips than with selling the models.

That is no sales to under 14 y.o.'s

I'll PM you so as to keep the thread on topic.

Le Grognard wrote:Wow, I guess the email came out. The excrement is really going to collide with the mechanical air-circulator:

"Their move today makes it 'against the rules' to sell their product to anyone under 14, sell bits or prepainted product and even advertise a particular product is in our stores online, and quite possibly made it against the rules to post pictures of people playing with their products in our stores."

Just wow.

The underlined part is absolutely against EU laws (won't protect rest of world retailers though). The rest is strange. The pictures one in particular seems like it will just promote alternative products.

Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

 Empchild wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

I see no reason someone who has them can't scan it or cut&paste the text so we can see it for ourselves.

decker_cky wrote:
The underlined part is absolutely against EU laws ...

Which doesn't affect the US, which is where this is happening. And the bit about pics has been in place for years. It's goes along with the US prohibition on webcarts.

mechanicalhorizon wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

I see no reason someone who has them can't scan it or cut&paste the text so we can see it for ourselves.

Non-disclosure, generally means if you show this you get sued. This may not be the case but it used to be fairly standard with GW so it wouldn't surprise me.

mechanicalhorizon wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

I see no reason someone who has them can't scan it or cut&paste the text so we can see it for ourselves.

Because the risk to have their account canceled isnt worth satisfying a persons curiosity. People tend to talk, and there are white knights who would gladly turn over names of people to GW for whatever brownie points it might score them.

niceguyteddy wrote:
New GW terms for trade accounts prohibits sales of items not in their original packaging as well as a few other shenanigans. Thoughts for bits sellers?

No effect on them if they don't deal directly with GW. Any seller getting their GW stock through third party distributors will be unaffected by this just as they are unaffected by the web store shopping cart ban.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

I see no reason someone who has them can't scan it or cut&paste the text so we can see it for ourselves.

Because the risk to have their account canceled isnt worth satisfying a persons curiosity. People tend to talk, and there are white knights who would gladly turn over names of people to GW for whatever brownie points it might score them.

Honestly I'm surprised some of these haven't come out though. I'm surprised no one has given it to someone they trust to post it so they can stay anonymous or simply posted it on an anonymous account. Of course I wouldn't expect a store owner to post it on their site or on their forum account of which people know they are the owners of a particular store.

received the GW newsletter through the post, part of it states"We would like to draw particular attention to stockists that re-sell our products via distribution channels that fail to meet our quality standards. As our terms state, we will not be able to supply any stockist that uses these distribution methods (i.e. located in non perminent premises or utilising internet auction sites) to re-sell Games Workshop products. "at the bottom it says"Until next month, have a great and hopefully sunny June"

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:

 Empchild wrote:

mechanicalhorizon wrote:
Can someone post the actual terms, e-mail or newsletter with this info listed?

Until I see the actual wording then I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

The problem is generally you can't as their is legal terms you sign and they post disclaimers. It sucks but I used to have to deal with it...

I see no reason someone who has them can't scan it or cut&paste the text so we can see it for ourselves.

Because the risk to have their account canceled isnt worth satisfying a persons curiosity. People tend to talk, and there are white knights who would gladly turn over names of people to GW for whatever brownie points it might score them.

Honestly I'm surprised some of these haven't come out though. I'm surprised no one has given it to someone they trust to post it so they can stay anonymous or simply posted it on an anonymous account. Of course I wouldn't expect a store owner to post it on their site or on their forum account of which people know they are the owners of a particular store.

No doubt it will happen soon enough, but from the sounds of things, these terms just came out today. If nothing else we will see confirmation by a store like The War Store removing their bits section as they order direct (and in fact are a distributor as well).

I am shocked. This is ridiculous. Stores will have to card people to buy GW products now?

krazynadechukr wrote:
received the GW newsletter through the post, part of it states"We would like to draw particular attention to stockists that re-sell our products via distribution channels that fail to meet our quality standards. As our terms state, we will not be able to supply any stockist that uses these distribution methods (i.e. located in non perminent premises or utilising internet auction sites) to re-sell Games Workshop products. "at the bottom it says"Until next month, have a great and hopefully sunny June"

Like the underlined part so instead of: we will refuse or we will not GW just can't. Evil market forces don't allow poor GW to sell stuff I'm gonna cry so hard.

Back on topic let me see if I got this. I already have a (pirated) pdf of the 6th ed rules to see how they work until next month I go and visit my friendly but not local store and get the parts I want from the DV box, the booklet and the cultists, but GW in their infinite wisdom will close his trade account if he dares to sell the DV box in bits and pieces. So what's going to happen is that I will buy those things online or even worse for GW I won't buy them at all and print the pdf because I'm not going to pay the mark up they generously impose on those of us that live in Japan.

Keep up the good work GW and next year everybody around here will be playing Warzone, game that I'm buying because they are not calling me dumb.

M.

Sooo...how will GW find out about these contractual breaches? Pose as hobbyists, buy the product from bitz stores, and then remove their stockist status out of spite once they match addresses?

I highly doubt actual bit collectors would do this, so the burden of proof would be on GW to prove.

Of course, that is treading a dangerous line regardless.

 WarOne wrote:
Sooo...how will GW find out about these contractual breaches? Pose as hobbyists, buy the product from bitz stores, and then remove their stockist status out of spite once they match addresses?

I highly doubt actual bit collectors would do this, so the burden of proof would be on GW to prove.

Of course, that is treading a dangerous line regardless.

It sounds like they are going to attempt to go after distributors which i don't see happening. Under privacy agreements all stores and information cannot be given out. Really it's a scare tactic and all they are doing is killing their own business. Bits sites such as mine exist because of a need in the market. GW shouldnt have stopped selling bits simple as that.

 Empchild wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
Sooo...how will GW find out about these contractual breaches? Pose as hobbyists, buy the product from bitz stores, and then remove their stockist status out of spite once they match addresses?

I highly doubt actual bit collectors would do this, so the burden of proof would be on GW to prove.

Of course, that is treading a dangerous line regardless.

GW shouldnt have stopped selling bits simple as that.

They do still have certain bits (metal meltaguns and the like for example) but the buy in cost for most of those items are staggering.

So no wonder they want to try and curb the bitz market; their website becomes the sole proprietor of limited bit kits (their dreams).

Honestly I'm surprised some of these haven't come out though. I'm surprised no one has given it to someone they trust to post it so they can stay anonymous or simply posted it on an anonymous account. Of course I wouldn't expect a store owner to post it on their site or on their forum account of which people know they are the owners of a particular store.

Trust no one.

where is the source for this? This is not possible unless the want to stop making models all together.

So... I just wanna make sure I have this straight. Retailers with trade accounts can no longer sell stuff out of its original packaging (so no more bits), and have to card anyone who looks younger than 14? The second part sounds especially weird to me since kids seem to be GW's bread and butter nowadays.

Wow, a real new low for GW.

Anybody got popcorn cause this is going to be good.