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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 20:18:56
Subject: GW going down to 3D Printing?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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-Loki- wrote: Blaggard wrote:However if 3d printing fails I will eat these words, I just think it won't.
It won't fail, but I don't think it'll get the mainstream support people think it will to make it as cheap as other consumer electronics until the technology gets some major innovations.
VHS, then DVD, then Blu Ray players got cheaper because they had mainstream appeal (renting movies, owning movies).
Record, Cassette and CD players got cheaper because they had mainstream appeal (owning music).
2D desktop printers got cheaper because they had mainstream appeal (printing your own documents).
3D printers... I just don't see the mainstream appeal yet. You need to remember the vast, vast majority of consumers don't do things like play wargames. 3D printers, to them, will look like an expensive printer than can print a trinket than can buy for $5 at a market. Anything actually useful the average person can think of to print (which will boil down to electronic and automotive spare parts, anything around the house that can break, etc) is simply not suitable in the material 3D printers currently work with. Printing a part for an engine in resin or plastic when it needs to be hardened steel is going to end up risking lives due to its unsuitability.
So yeah, the technology itself won't fail, but in its current state, I can't see it getting the mainstream support other major household electronics have gotten simply due to the average person having no actual use for it with the material it currently works with. Which means they won't get cheap enough for the average wargamer to want to buy and experiment with for a good few years yet.
They said the same things regarding computers. You'll never need more than 640k, remember. Ofcourse that isn't written in stone, it's just "the future is unknowable", so many failed inventions to the successful ones. So many more patents than actual products too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 21:46:41
Subject: GW going down to 3D Printing?
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The thing I think a lot of people are missing isn't that 3D printers are going to get cheaper but we'll still need the 3D models to print out. It's not like a CD where we can easily copy it and burn it -- not everyone is going to have a 3D scanner.
Even if the software were cheaper (and it is.. Blender and Sculptris can put out some AMAZING things, but "Easy, Good, and Cheap... pick two..."), the skills required to make models that rival GW are something else entirely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 07:27:55
Subject: Re:GW going down to 3D Printing?
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Umm, guys, you should keep in mind that cheap and tinkerable 3D printers like http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page already exist and they are pretty reliable and capable of fine detail work. When you add programs like the mentioned http://www.123dapp.com/ and open source sites like http://www.thingiverse.com/ where you can grab a basic model legally, things (will) start to look different.
Also on the utility of 3D home printers, have you ever had a simple plastic part (like the plastic screw cover that makes wall mounts look nicer) break or needed something unique shaped to cover a fault / fit in a specific space / or just be a unique wall decoration ? A basic 3D printer is a really nice way to create such minor things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 10:04:37
Subject: GW going down to 3D Printing?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Reprap's method of spooling plastic doesn't yet provide a good enough level of detail for most 28mm models. Vehicles, maybe, but not troops.
I've been wanting to build one for a few years, but I could only think to use it to print scenery.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 12:17:04
Subject: GW going down to 3D Printing?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Yes, unless you spend lot of time fiddling with your extruder nozzle and thin your basic feed (as well as one balancing of he programming) it can only produce basic shapes but that is not as big of a problem as you might think.
Mass produced Green stuff bits, is what you are missing.
This guy is seriusly an inspiration for me; http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?365152-quot-Mass-quot-Produced-Customized-IG-without-Sculpting
Edit; keyboard batteries seem to be dying, lots of skipped characters...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/04/26 12:18:28
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