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Considering it has been two full pages and the OP still hasn't participated leads me to wonder why he posted in the first place...

Simply put, yes, gluing the doors shut is allowable, hey, it's your model, but it is a jackwagon move to purposefully do it to block LOS. You're not playing tyranids, you can't be that desperate for cover.
   
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Considering it has been two full pages and the OP still hasn't participated leads me to wonder why he posted in the first place...

Simply put, yes, gluing the doors shut is allowable, hey, it's your model, but it is a jackwagon move to purposefully do it to block LOS. You're not playing tyranids, you can't be that desperate for cover.


What about not gluing the doors shut, and then placing it on the table with all the doors shut? I really don't see why people are focussing on the modelling aspect here, it's not modelling for advantage, it's modelling for disadvantage, by not gluing them shut the OP would have the flexibility of choosing whether to put the doors down or not.

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Either way, he's playing marines, he can't be that desperate to break LOS or get cover saves.
   
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Either way, he's playing marines, he can't be that desperate to break LOS or get cover saves.


True, unless using them to block Los for troops or vehicles advancing up the table. Why take a 3+ save when you can nullify getting shot at in the first place.

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Either way, I really can't see someone trying to actually win that argument in person.
   
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Most tournaments will rule it as being able to be shot through regardless. However, RAW it can be used to blos, I just think most feel (due to how the pod is supposed to work and the interior gun mount) that RAI it should be open. Which is why most places rule it as always open for being shot through.
   
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Considering it has been two full pages and the OP still hasn't participated leads me to wonder why he posted in the first place...

Yeah, no way it could be intimidating to plunge into the pile of gak his thread turned into three pages later...

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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Either way, he's playing marines, he can't be that desperate to break LOS or get cover saves.

Is 'Does the army actually need a cover save' really the best criteria for determining whether or not to follow the LOS rules from the rulebook...?

 
   
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I don't come across DPs often, and I don't really care.

Both have many advantages and disadvantages of more than just LOS.

I assume the open doors count as part of the hull. So closed they will reduce the radius able to be shot at, Open they can block direct charges... etc


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Breng77 wrote:
Most tournaments will rule it as being able to be shot through regardless. However, RAW it can be used to blos, I just think most feel (due to how the pod is supposed to work and the interior gun mount) that RAI it should be open. Which is why most places rule it as always open for being shot through.


Yep. RAW and RAI are different in this case, so it's best to just arbitrarily pick one and set it as the rules for your venue/house/tournament/etc and move on.
   
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There is no rule saying the opposing player can't smash your miniatures with a hammer and claim victory. Just like there isn't a rule for MFA in 40k.

Does it mean I allow either? No.

This is a practical world, here is how I see it.

1.) Your Drop Pods are glued shut. They block LoS always and are treated like TLoS as the rules state.
2.) Your Drop Pods are not glued shut. They don't block LoS and if you intentionally open some and keep others closed so that only some block LoS and others don't, you won't be finding many games in local shops. That and you come with the stigma of nasty names not worth repeating, and we all know are true.

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I think the best way to do this is to simply not have any doors on the pod at all.

That way, there is nothing to get in the way with terrain and such, and there is nothing to get in the way of line of sight.

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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Either way, he's playing marines, he can't be that desperate to break LOS or get cover saves.


Someone pulled that on me.

Lucious Drop Pod landed but only opened a single door to let the Dreadnought out.

Positioned as such my Dark Reaper Exarch could not take a shot with the lascannon on his Dreadnought because I had no LOS since the doors between the Dread and the Exarch were closed but not between the Dread and the Wave Serpent he wanted to charge.
   
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Personally, debate it all you want, But I would feel like TFG if I wanted to completely LOS my squads/dreads from my opponent with closed door drop pods. I wouldn't think to highly of my opponent either if he kept doors shut and claimed complete LOS by a model that I feel was designed to flower open.

Pro tip often forgotten about: Be friendly when you play. Don't use grey areas like this for in game advantages. And have fun.

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Its not a grey area. If your pod doors are glued shut, they block LoS.

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One of the things putting me off drop pod usage is I don't like moving parts and fixing the doors opens makes them HUGE and awkard to transport.

If I glued the doors shut it would be for convienence not to block LOS.
   
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 Grey Templar wrote:
Its not a grey area. If your pod doors are glued shut, they block LoS.


I feel that the gray area is if they should be open or closed. Not if they're closed do the block LOS.

However all that said. Play with them either way, just don't change them mid-game.

   
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

I feel that the gray area is if they should be open or closed. .

That's no more a grey area than whether or not a marine should be assembled with his head facing forwards or to the left is...

 
   
 
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