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Kommissar Kel,
There should not be the possibility of active weapons; any fortifications that are not purchased as part of an army list will have Rules preventing them from having working weapons.

8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures.  
   
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JinxDragon wrote:
Kommissar Kel,
There should not be the possibility of active weapons; any fortifications that are not purchased as part of an army list will have Rules preventing them from having working weapons.


From the SA book, under updated building rules:

Unclaimed Buildings

An unclaimed building follows all the normal rules for buildings and so cannot fire any weapons or be targeted by any players’ attacks. Note that, in most circumstances, unclaimed buildings are also dilapidated fortifications and so cannot normally fire any emplaced weapons they may have anyway (unless you and your opponent agree otherwise, of course).


Also the rule you are thinking of is for dilapidated Fortifications. If you and your opponent agree, then you can have a standard non-owned fortification(or just a building of some sort with emplaced weapons) as a terrain peice following either the brb standard or SA rules.

This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.



 
   
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Kel,
Of course, but if your opponent agrees to it then you could pop down the death star and try to do a trench run with Hel-drakes.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/04 01:07:25


8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures.  
   
Made in us
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JinxDragon wrote:
Kel,
Of course, but if your opponent agrees to it then you could pop down the death star and try to do a trench run with Hel-drakes.



Excepting that these rules are written into the rules.

Pre-SA the building had to be occupied to shoot, get shot, or get assaulted; after SA it needs only be claimed by being occupied at some point.

And a bunker with a gun emplacement has always been a legal building, with rules.

This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.



 
   
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Hey people, why are you debating rules in this thread, post the rule that causes controversy and leave, do not reply or debate the rule if you lot want to do it go and make a thread or PM each other, people like myself want to come to this thread see what rules may cause issue and all im seeing is 3/4 messages and then a load of rules debates....
   
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Kel,
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the general view of this forum to debate the default rules found in the Book and leave the two players to make up whatever agreements they wish?
After all, the 'Golden Rule' right at the start says the same thing about any rule in this book.

Added:
Good point Formosa, I will refrain from posting more on this thread.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/04 02:27:39


8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures.  
   
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 Janthkin wrote:
This thread is getting WAY off-topic. Do NOT use it to discuss the rules themselves; that you want to argue about them is sufficient in itself to demonstrate that they belong on the OP's list of controversial rules.


Quoting.

"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." 
   
 
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