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Warp Spiders, Attack Bikes, Taurox, Repentia, Wave Serpent turrets.

Not picky at all.

Kaldor Draigo, The Smurf Captain, the Inquisitor guy with the funky throne, most other named characters.

Part of the fun of 40k for me is to kitbash my badass-looking general, give him a funny name, and have him forge a heroic legacy by sticking a chainsword up the enemies collective asses. I far prefer having some cool, colorful-sounding hero to one that's been pregenerated for me, even if the named characters are noticeably better than the ones that aren't.

 Jancoran wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Riptides, they completely go against all the tau fluff to that point. That and I love crisis suits.

A battlesuit goes against their fluff? eh...

So the only unit its difficult to justify is the Falcon. Even though it isn't a useless unit, you find 100 ways not to include it in an army.

Its not that it is a battlesuit, it is that it is waaay to huge, basically, pre - riptide Tau fluff had that they realised the humanoid shape only scales up to a certain point, which the riptide is well beyond, and due to concessions in agility and mobility that would have to be made for something so large, it was determined that lots of small things is better than lots of large ones.

Vespid.....cool concept and look good on paper, horrid rules execution.

Conscripts. We're all professionals here.

Mutilators... manky rubbish things they are... i cant find a way to fit them into a list that doesnt give me aids as i write it... they are as close to useless as i have encountered. add to that i spose that they are hideous, finecast, and bleh no... i got 3 for free, the only reason i own them, and they dont even get a basecoat of paint

Howling banshees.
Bros before hoes you know

Centurions. Absolutely hate the way they look.

 Krellnus wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Riptides, they completely go against all the tau fluff to that point. That and I love crisis suits.

A battlesuit goes against their fluff? eh...

So the only unit its difficult to justify is the Falcon. Even though it isn't a useless unit, you find 100 ways not to include it in an army.

Its not that it is a battlesuit, it is that it is waaay to huge, basically, pre - riptide Tau fluff had that they realised the humanoid shape only scales up to a certain point, which the riptide is well beyond, and due to concessions in agility and mobility that would have to be made for something so large, it was determined that lots of small things is better than lots of large ones.

Looks like someone forgot to tell someone from the Earth Caste to stop working on the problem and they made it anyways.

Sadly fluff changes happen a lot. Sisters used to be orphans, then orphans of Imperial Servants and now are Orphaned Nobles (as per the Schola fluff in the Tempestus book). Is it annoying that they keep shrinking the pool that they're drawn from to try and keep the numbers down because they don't seem to get that they have a setting with over 16 Quadrillion Imperial Citizens and even 10 Billion (which is around .00005% of the pop) is a lot? Yes. Can I do much about it? Probably not without annoying Phil Kelly so much that GW sends me a C&D.

So yeah, fluff changes, time moves on and eventually it's time to stop holding grudges about move on ourselves.

For my Iron Warriors, half of the CSM codex (cultists, possessed, mutilator, everything with a mark, spawm, raptors, warp talons, helldrakes, havoc with autocannon, defiler, obliterator,).

Nidz, gaunts, tervigon, flyrant,

For daemon, the flying circus.

 Mysterious Pants wrote:
Kaldor Draigo, The Smurf Captain, the Inquisitor guy with the funky throne, most other named characters.

Part of the fun of 40k for me is to kitbash my badass-looking general, give him a funny name, and have him forge a heroic legacy by sticking a chainsword up the enemies collective asses. I far prefer having some cool, colorful-sounding hero to one that's been pregenerated for me, even if the named characters are noticeably better than the ones that aren't.

Sir, I believe a few fine folks wish to tell you are just aren't creative enough. Meet the three wisemen:

 TheKbob wrote:

 Mysterious Pants wrote:
Kaldor Draigo, The Smurf Captain, the Inquisitor guy with the funky throne, most other named characters.

Part of the fun of 40k for me is to kitbash my badass-looking general, give him a funny name, and have him forge a heroic legacy by sticking a chainsword up the enemies collective asses. I far prefer having some cool, colorful-sounding hero to one that's been pregenerated for me, even if the named characters are noticeably better than the ones that aren't.

Sir, I believe a few fine folks wish to tell you are just aren't creative enough. Meet the three wisemen:

Spoiler:

LADY K!

Spoiler:

Honey Calgar

Spoiler:

... and Mah Man, KALDOR DAYGLOW

Holy Christ that is amazing.

Refuse to use?

More than one riptide.
While they are not as OP as people think (I have not lost a battle to the new tau yet, even with my tyranids) I don't want to listen people bitch about my army when I beat them.

I also refuse to use allies, or cheesy combos.

I try, really try not to use mind shackle scrabs in my necron lists, but they are in there for a reason, but they annoy people who don't understand why they are in there, or how to deal with them, so I just try to avoid it.

Now, the "don't use" list is much longer, as there are a lot of just plain BAD units in my various armies...most of them only see table time only in apoc games;
* ctan
* flayed ones
* vespid
* XV9 suits
* the swarmlord
* whirlwinds (yeah, I like em').
* massed air speeders
*

Allies. I like to play a pure race. Allies just makes everything less interesting because it makes some lists just ridiculous.

I use allies and field only Death Korps model, FW to victory.

Harlequins. God, they should be so much better. They made Veil of Tears a psychic power, so if you don't go first,... PEACE OUT, YO!

Skyray: A vehicle on a flying base with jet engines mounted to the side should not be sacrificing the majority of its fire power if it moves at all. To a lesser extent I have a similar problem with all devilfish chasis vehicles since the loss of the multitracker, all these vehicles ought to move faster, but I find the skyray particularly irksome. Eldar guardians on foot pushing heavy weapons on freaking anti-grav carts fire on the move more effectively than this thing for crying out loud.

From a looks PoV I refuse to use Ratlings and Ogryns. The miniatures are hideous. Fluffwise I think roughriders are a wash, cavalry charging with lances in a WWI/WWII alike codex WTH?
Also almost anything eldar with a pointy helmet (SS with their predator looks get a pass), small wonder my army is almost 100% count-as.

M.

In my current armies :

Daemons - Anything non nurgle. This is a Mono-Nurgle force, dammit!

Dark Eldar - not a thing. I even use Mandrakes and Hellions

Orks - Ditto.

Blitza Bomma, Stormboyz and Wierdboyz are all in my list for next Saturday's game

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Rough riders. Everything else I can see a use for even if it's a lame one.

Rough riders make fantastic counterpunch units in non-competitive games.


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 Ascalam wrote:
In my current armies :

Daemons - Anything non nurgle. This is a Mono-Nurgle force, dammit!

Dark Eldar - not a thing. I even use Mandrakes and Hellions

Orks - Ditto.

Blitza Bomma, Stormboyz and Wierdboyz are all in my list for next Saturday's game

You are the reason I still have hope for this game.




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To actually answer this post, I will refer to the codexes I use and have reviewed thoroughly. You can have a look here, if you're interested.

Tau

Ethereals, including both special characters. Juicy first blood and warlord targets that give a few minor buffs to fire warriors. Move along.

Stealthsuits: Frustratingly fragile for a unit that should be able to one-man a small enemy army through sheer irritation. The culprit: Short range and they need something like nightshields or old veil of tears.

Kroot: Sure, they're the best scorers in codex: tau. But we're playing tau, goddamnit, if we leave one man standing we don't deserve to win.

Razorwing jetfighters and sunsharks: The former because it's a stupid and it is flown by a tool, the latter because GW refuses to make it work. I will not buy a sunshark until it has been FAQed.

Heavy Support HYMP Broadsides and hammerheads. The Former is mediocre and overhyped, the latter is a tantilising waste of 130 points. it should cost 80~100 points given what it actually puts out, and the fact that a fething BS3 vanquisher is MORE likely to knock a hull point and only 1.5% less likely to knock the thing out altogether in one hit, while being all round more survivable and better on the move.

Spehs marheens
Black templars characters got the shaft.

Vanguard vets and assault cents are awful and just copy-pasta of assault marines/terminators respectively.

Tactical marines are a waste of time given a meta rife with S6~8 AP2~3

Assault marines are a joke.

In heavy support, the only one is godhammers. They've got a place, and that place is on the shelf.

Daemons
Masque or the scribes. Both are gakky and fragile.

Flamers are a waste of time and space.

Pink horrors and nurgling bases. The former because they're only taken as daemon players squeal about having no shooting output and the latter because they're not capable of doing much.

The hellflayer is fragile and not worth the time or effort.

The burning chariot is an in-joke concocted by slaanesh to make a tantilizing unit with decent shooting that's actually awful because it can't move anywhere.

Special Characters in general. I prefer assembling my own, generic HQs with which I can actually associate.

I used to refuse to take even a single Heldrake, but I've relented at some point. To be honest, I've grown to like it, but I won't take any more.

I'm in the process of creating an Allied Detachment of DE, and I really don't want to take a Beastpack. Kabal army is much more fitting for me.

Heldrakes, I'm only looking into getting ONE for my 6000 Points chaos army, even then, i'm gonna give it an autocannon and convert it into a helltalon. Then when i get the rules...I'll use it as a helltalon. Heh

 TheKbob wrote:

 Mysterious Pants wrote:
Kaldor Draigo, The Smurf Captain, the Inquisitor guy with the funky throne, most other named characters.

Part of the fun of 40k for me is to kitbash my badass-looking general, give him a funny name, and have him forge a heroic legacy by sticking a chainsword up the enemies collective asses. I far prefer having some cool, colorful-sounding hero to one that's been pregenerated for me, even if the named characters are noticeably better than the ones that aren't.

Sir, I believe a few fine folks wish to tell you are just aren't creative enough. Meet the three wisemen:

Spoiler:

LADY K!

Love Lady K

OT - Howling Banshees - just don;t work sadly, love em but they rules are horrible,
Wyches - again poor rules execution and I refuse to use them as tank hunters - complete opposite to what they are supposed to be
Taurox, Centurions, Stormraven, Babycarrier, Stormtalon - I will never buy them never mind field them due to the models..........

I hate Riptides and will never use them. I have a small Tau army (roughly 1500 points) I keep at my cousins place, and I will NEVER add a Riptide to them. In any sort of game, (if you saw Adepticon you'd know this) The model purely exists as a power model. Fluff wise, it shouldn't exist, mechanically, it's more machine than Monstrous Creature and was simple the utmost, purely TERRIBLY thought out model in my eyes, released from GW in the last 5 years. It should NOT be a MC, it should be a Walker. It has 0 counter play and because of this I will never invest time or money into one.

Space Marine Bikes and Attack Bikes. I don't care how good T5 is, bikes fit in a savage ork army, but not with Space Marines.

I actually agree with the fluff reasoning for not using bikes, I think the attack bike is particularly stupid, why you would use that in the year 40k is beyond me.

However in the game... they work too well to ignore for Marines, hence my squad of bikers with an attack bike!

For my guard I don't use abhumans, as a bit of a speciesist I dislike the whole concept.There are also a number of units that just don't fit in with my concept for my guard army. Priests (might convert up some to be Staff NCOs or the guard version of fireblades considering how awesome they are now), psyker battle squads, conscripts, rough riders and tech priests.

There's nothing I hate enough to refuse to use for my marines, but there is a lot of stuff I simply don't have or can't find a use for. Assault centurions (no use), drop pods and bikes (plenty of use but I don't own any)

Terminators, I think terminators cost too much for what they do, and their simply not tough enough anymore. Call me their all 2w and 6up fnp and I might consider using them.

I also refuse to wield a dark talon, it's a piece of junk, it really, truly is.

War Walkers...too ugly to paint.

I avoid using Thunderfire Cannons and Centurions in my list. Powerful, yes, but ugly models and boring to use.