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2014/04/30 02:48:40
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
I can't say that I ever considered Rollins Band to be "punk".
Yes, he was influenced (and influential) in the punk scene with Black Flag....but I just don't get the same "punk" feeling from Rollins Band as I do Black Flag.
I think there are some similarities in the lyrics (especially since Henry was the vocalist as well as a contributing lyricist...you can't deny Ginn's influence)....but the style/sound, for me at least, is quite different.
I just don't have the same feel between the two, at all....but that may just be me (and its the beauty of music, not everyone hears/feels the same as you do).
Dead Kennedys have been mentioned (Won't stop me posting this, my favorite ), but Jello Biafra (the vocalist/frontman) has been quite prolific. Here he is with DOA, another fantastic band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVGTsxdnKq0
I stay away from recommending that one, lots of people like to toss around the phrase 'weak emo gak' in relation to them. Besides, stylistically I think they're more alt-rock, tho I think they did a good job with their later albums on the 'punk' end. BTW, aside from being fellow New Jerseyans, they've also been known to roll some dice...
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2014/05/01 04:47:34
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
cpt_fishcakes wrote: Best advice for geting into punk though,start at the begining and work up
I'll agree with this.
I have a Social Distortion radio on Spotify, and I get the largest variety of punk from that station. Rancid also has a great variety of punk/ska that pops up on Pandora/Spotify.
Punk isn't all mall poseurs complaining about The Man. It can also be fun! Here is some fun punk:
I hope you enjoy this as much as I do!
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2014/05/05 00:37:38
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
Just putting my two cents in here, but I really like MCR (My Chemical Romance) and are a staple of my music listenings.
More their earlier stuff (Anything that predates Danger Days really and mostly the Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge Album). Their music tends to be very Punk or Punk/Rock which I like a heck of a lot.
I'd like to add to the ska list : The Porkers , an Australian ska/rock act who are awesome. They come complete with humour including a song called earthquakin about the Newcastle earthquake. Other good tracks include 'woman' ,'bush turkey' , and many many others, later albums become much more rockish though. Whilst I'm on the subject I have no idea why everything nowdays seems to be referred to as punk even when it is quite clearly pop/rock. What happened to rock? is it illegal to use rock without a prefix? I also cannot recommend The Toasters enough.
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2014/05/08 01:08:54
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
@prime12357 - tragedy is so good! My forum is based off them. Intolerable weight is probably in my top 5 favorite songs.
And feth title fight. The dudes have alway been douches to me and other friends of mine but their other bands like bad seed and dead end path are so good it infuriates me.
Discharge is also rad as all get out. Love me some hear nothing say nothing.
It's cool to see people into more "hardcore" punk stuff.
2014/05/23 05:00:50
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
feeder wrote: Don't get me wrong, I love the Ramones and Blitzkrieg Bop will get me jumping any day of the week. But they really only have one song.
Maybe, you're joking and sure Ramones have some general themes that they like to go over like both celebrating and mocking pop culture, their limitations as musicians and New York urban life and romanticizing unromantic things but saying they only have one song is an extreme
oversimplification (at least when it comes their albums Ramones and Rocket to Russia as I barely listen to any of their other albums) unless you mean on an instrumental level as it is true their often isn't much difference in the structure of their songs. I'm going to use their first album
as an example to showcase the difference from song to song in terms of subject matter.
1. Blitzkrieg Bop: It' hard to figure out the meaning of this song as there's references to WWII, dancing sex, having fun, etc but there's still not enough info the song to come up with definite meaning to the lyrics. This was probably intentional so the song more about emotion rather than
having any real meaning behind it.
2. Beat On The Brat: Self-Explanatory
3. Judy Is A Punk: 2 juvenile offenders one from Berlin and the other San Francisco and their possible deaths.
4. I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend: An intentionally dumb love song that both celebrates and mocks dumb love songs.
5. Chainsaw: A love song inspired by "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre".
6. Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue: A song about teenage boredom.
7. I Don't Wanna Go Down to the Basement: About parents not wanting to go down to the basement while their kid's band is playing as they're too loud down their with a horror movie context.
8. Loudmouth: About a loudmouth being threatened with acts of violence.
9. Listen to My Heart: About an unhealthy relationship.
10. Havana Affair: Its about a farmer who was employed by the CIA to spy on the communists in Cuba.
11. 53rd & 3rd: A semi-autobiographical story about a male prostitute who cuts guys dicks to prove he isn't gay.
12. Let's Dance: About dancing and possibly fething as well.
13. I Don't Wanna Walk Around With You: Self-explanatory
14. Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World: Could be about Nazi propaganda, German soldiers fighting for no other reason than for the love of their country, love song from the perspective of a Nazi, etc.
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2014/05/23 07:29:06
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
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2014/05/23 19:09:46
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
Obviously the info graph is but maybe he believes it though that's why I'm not totally sure if he/she was being serious though.
Half-joking. You can't claim the Ramones have a wide range. Hence my "one song" comment.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
2014/05/25 22:31:41
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
Obviously the info graph is but maybe he believes it though that's why I'm not totally sure if he/she was being serious though.
Half-joking. You can't claim the Ramones have a wide range. Hence my "one song" comment.
Instrumentally sure but in terms of subject matter their is a lot of variety to their songs.
Agreed.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
2014/05/27 01:35:18
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
Bad Brains,Bad Brains Bad Brains, Can't say this enough. Banned in DC and FVK were on heavy rotation in my casset walkman
Youth Of Today
Rollins Band
Fishbone
Rancid
Death
If you want to give your EDM friends a good kick in the ass :
Lolita Storm
Ec8or
Atari Teenage RIot, particularly Delete Yourself and 60 Second Wipeout
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2014/05/27 05:06:31
Subject: Re:I like punk, don't know where to start.
I've been listening to Streetlight Manifesto quite a lot lately.
Spoiler:
Plus Billy Talent hasn't been mentioned yet.
Spoiler:
This probably a good place to post this, its Greg Graffin's 'Punk Manifesto'; an essay which attempts to define what a punk actually is written by the Bad Religion frontman (who is almost certainly the only punk musician with a PhD). In essence 'Punk' is a state of mind rather than a specific musical genre. Its quite long, and I don't 100% agree with it but its worth reading. Linky
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RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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While I do agree that punk is a state of mind, that state of mind is embodied in the music produced, as such there tends to be a certain set of musical attributes around which this state of mind is made manifest, from which we can determine genre.
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