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 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:

Praise be to the Wardfather for giving us the gift of Zandrekh and Trazyn.

Those are two of the worst characters in the codex though.

Though only Imotekh and Szeras(sp?) are good.

Are you talking about actual strength on the tabletop? O_o

Because Zahndrekh is by far the best character in the entire codex, Obyron is ok, and the rest is terrible.

Hahah, and you call yourself a "TruCron"?

Because when I read 3e Necrons I thought "Wow I bet some of these Necron Overlords have hammy dinner parties".

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

*Snip*

They were just metal coated Tyranids, at the behest of masters who just wanted to eat and screw around with things.

liquidjoshi wrote:
So you're arguing that my opinion is wrong. And your argument amounts to "They're just metal Tyranids, Meurgh!"

Gosh.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:
You mean besides you stated a 'fact'

all we did know was that they were out for blood.

liquidjoshi, in the first half of my post wrote:

I preferred [...] I just preferred [...]

Mhhm. Mhhm.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:
We knew quite a bit more then that, the second part was opinion,

Oh, forgive me, we knew they were acting under the C'Tan, who are so transparent and open in their designs and intentions.

Pfft, ok.

Fixed many times because quotes.

Oh, forgive me, we knew they were acting under the C'Tan, who are so transparent and open in their designs and intentions.

The C'tan hate the Warp and its psychic energies (even as they crave the living energies of organic beings) and had the Necrons construct a series of pylons on the world of Cadia and other planets across several sectors in the Segmentum Obscurus which, when completed, were intended to close off the Warp from the material universe entirely, utterly destroying any living creatures with a soul, leaving all other life in the galaxy as nourishment for the C'tan.

Somewhat were, they were just kinda hungry for living energies.

Which explains the Void Dragon and Deceiver's shenanigans?

Think what you want about Old/Newcrons, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. But you're attacking an opinion, not a fact.

The Void Dragon (probably) got beat the hell out of by a dude on a horse with an iron sword, then (probably) dragged to Mars and buried there.

The Void Dragon almost killed the Emperor who despite defeating it did not manage to outright kill it and imprisoned it on Mars.

Not the smartest idea, as it turns out. Having a god corrupting mankind, or parts of it, never is a good idea

 Sigvatr wrote:
The Void Dragon almost killed the Emperor who despite defeating it did not manage to outright kill it and imprisoned it on Mars.

Not the smartest idea, as it turns out. Having a god corrupting mankind, or parts of it, never is a good idea

Unless of course it helped kickstart the powerful technology that Mars ended up creating, which helped conquer a vast amount of the universe in a short time.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
The Void Dragon almost killed the Emperor who despite defeating it did not manage to outright kill it and imprisoned it on Mars.

Not the smartest idea, as it turns out. Having a god corrupting mankind, or parts of it, never is a good idea

Unless of course it helped kickstart the powerful technology that Mars ended up creating, which helped conquer a vast amount of the universe in a short time.

As every farmer knows, good grain needs fertilizer to grow before the harvest


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 Void__Dragon wrote:


Because when I read 3e Necrons I thought "Wow I bet some of these Necron Overlords have hammy dinner parties".

Ehm...the soulless automatons having dinner parties...uhm...I guess you're mixing up the codices here.

Ehm...the soulless automatons having dinner parties...uhm...I guess you're mixing up the codices here.

I think he's saying that because you like those characters in the 5E codex, considering his first line and that your betraying the oldcrons.

Though Xenology had one taunting an Inquisitor in a manner befitting 5E, so who knows

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Ehm...the soulless automatons having dinner parties...uhm...I guess you're mixing up the codices here.

I think he's saying that because you like those characters in the 5E codex, considering his first line and that your betraying the oldcrons.

Ah, okay, he just did not read the post properly then. Thanks.

 Sigvatr wrote:
The Void Dragon almost killed the Emperor who despite defeating it did not manage to outright kill it and imprisoned it on Mars.

Not the smartest idea, as it turns out. Having a god corrupting mankind, or parts of it, never is a good idea

Dude. On a horse. With an iron sword.

Beat the piss out of it and then dragged it to Mars.

"Dude" aka The Emperor aka the strongest psyker in the entire universe (until he died). He was able to defeat the Void Dragon (and barely so, might I add!) as The Warp is their weak spot.

And in the end...well...The Void Dragon lives, imprisoned on Mars, corrupting mankind. The Emperor is dead. Who should stop him if he breaks free?

 Sigvatr wrote:
"Dude" aka The Emperor aka the strongest psyker in the entire universe (until he died). He was able to defeat the Void Dragon (and barely so, might I add!) as The Warp is their weak spot.

And in the end...well...The Void Dragon lives, imprisoned on Mars, corrupting mankind. The Emperor is dead. Who should stop him if he breaks free?

Marbo

 Random Dude wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
"Dude" aka The Emperor aka the strongest psyker in the entire universe (until he died). He was able to defeat the Void Dragon (and barely so, might I add!) as The Warp is their weak spot.

And in the end...well...The Void Dragon lives, imprisoned on Mars, corrupting mankind. The Emperor is dead. Who should stop him if he breaks free?

Marbo

Dear lord. It's like in those anime movies. Marbo and The Void Dragon connect and the entire universe is destroyed in a huge explosion.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR!

MARBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

While it's not bad it's certainly not as good as the old fluff was.

I don't want to know about the Necrons. I want them to be an ancient and inhuman foe. If I read anything about their culture or society I want it to be from the perspective of the Eldar, not their own storytellers or historians. As for individual characters and known individuals within structure I'm semi-alright with that... they don't need to be wholly faceless. But much like the C'tan used to be I'd rather their generals, or what is perceived to be their generals, to be shadowy and mysterious figures more than noted and well constructed individuals in their own right.

That is basically how Marbo functions, yes. He is from an era that predates Chuck Norris as the baddest of badasses, an era where that title was held by one John Rambo.

John Rambo. Never forget.

Remember the days where action heroes were action heroes and did not jump at every cash-train that came along? Looking at you, Expendables.

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They do, The Warp. Necrons have no defense against the powers of The Warp and it remains their weak point. Furthermore, they still rely on their Tomb Worlds. Should all or most of them be destroyed before they awaken, they aren't a threat anymore.

Time is the greatest foe of the Necrons. The Warriors that shamble out of the tombs are falling apart, hence the zombie-like gait many of them have. Codex: Necron notes that the Warriors are showing signs of mechanical fatigue and the effects of sixty million years of time on their Necrodermis.

The Flayer Virus is also spreading through various Dynasties and Tombs, and can (as Craftworld Iyanden learned) be captured and deployed elsewhere, as a sort of bio-warfare agent against creatures that are anything but biological.

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NewCrons all the way. I love Necrons, but if we had to stick with their old fluff, I probably wouldn't be playing them.

I like Newcron fluff in that I felt it gave personality to an army that was rather bland but I felt Ward focused to much on the evil doctor doom-esque part of the Necrons and less about the mysterious and silent race that just marches into a town a start shooting at people. The only thing I want to see removed is the bit about the galaxy-destroying superweapon, which to me is typical Ward faction spanking.

 Sigvatr wrote:

Ah, okay, he just did not read the post properly then. Thanks.

You said Zandrekh was the best character in the codex. He also throws dinner parties for captured Space Marines.

Unless you were indeed talking about gameplay, which would be strange indeed considering no one brought it up and this is the background section.

If there was a failure to communicate I would suggest you word your posts better my son.

To be fair Zahndrekh still thinks he's flesh and bone because of circuit damage or similar.

Honestly I like the NewCron fluff, which if you look hard enough into you can see the OldCrons (minus the C'Tan Overlords).

The only things I don't like about the NewCrons is them have time travel everywhere and the Celestial Orrery (which is a cool concept and despite me just saying I don't I do like it... just not in 40K). If these 2 things didn't exist (or if the former wasn't so wide-spread and only a few Necrons had it) then I'd completely love the NewCrons.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Necrons have no defense against the powers of The Warp

Pylons on Cadia (null field matrices), pariahs and gloom prisms.

Pariahs don't appear to exist anymore.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:

Praise be to the Wardfather for giving us the gift of Zandrekh and Trazyn.

Those are two of the worst characters in the codex though.

Though only Imotekh and Szeras(sp?) are good.

Zandrahk is actually pretty useful with the ability to pass out special rules, but otherwise pretty useless. Trayzn never dies, but what does he really DO?

Imotehk is my favorite named character, and he's fun as hell to play. And Szeras is good because of his Lance and he can buff a unit.


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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Pariahs don't appear to exist anymore.

Yeah, that made me sad.

 Truth118 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Necrons have no defense against the powers of The Warp

Pylons on Cadia (null field matrices), pariahs and gloom prisms.

Pariahs are Unit Type: Not In This Edition currently.