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It's getting pretty intense in California. There is so much insane stuff in the works now that I had to stop and share this before diving into painting and finishing some models. There will be a myriad of really strange seneschals and thralls, but I am also really pushing the Marines themselves to be VERY gothic.

In my excitement to returning to my first love army, I have decided to aim for a full 2000pt army within next year. Made of heroes and other expensive beings, it is not entirely unrealistic. Not with the momentum.

I love the game effect of Thunder Wolves, and the new plastic models are really brilliant, but the idea of Marines riding wolves is just silly (vs. plain stupid for Logan's sled?). So my cavalry will be made with just the wolves and their respective bionics to rep equipment, but the Wulfen Lord will just run and hunt with his wolves!

Would very much appreciate hearing your comments on Lord Balewolf.



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I'm surprised to see how well normal Marine/Terminator parts seem to fit with the Primarch models!

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 Malika2 wrote:
I'm surprised to see how well normal Marine/Terminator parts seem to fit with the Primarch models!


They do and they don't in a way. I can't speak for migsula but I have two primarchs (Ferrus and Horus) and they're not the same size. While I haven't tried converting Ferrus yet, I had to combine two terminator arms into one to lengthen it to make a stormbolter arm for my SW Horus. When I test fitted a single arm, it looked too short. YMMV of course. The axe migsula used for his horus conversion is actually from the dreadnought so you can see how there is a size difference. Ferrus on the other hand is smaller and only a bit bigger than kitbashed truescale terminators so the arms fit better on him than horus.




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I love the game effect of Thunder Wolves, and the new plastic models are really brilliant, but the idea of Marines riding wolves is just silly (vs. plain stupid for Logan's sled?). So my cavalry will be made with just the wolves and their respective bionics to rep equipment, but the Wulfen Lord will just run and hunt with his wolves!

Would very much appreciate hearing your comments on Lord Balewolf





I'm a big fan of your Horus conversion (probably more than my own) but the Ferrus one doesn't really work for me on several levels. I'm not sure if it is the bits but he seems more White Scar-ish than Space Wolf. Also, the arms don't really work for me. I think he'd look alot better either with the GK Terminator shoulder pads or with kitbashed Cataphractii ones instead of the normal versions. They just don't seem right in the proportions and the level of intricacy.

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The Axe is from Logan.

We seem to have the reverse take on the models. To me Ferrus is bigger than Horus. Clearly. This has been echoed on the blogger and email comments I've gotten from people working with same models.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with your conversions! That's the best part of the hobby and by far the best way to do constructive criticism. To show a better way


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 Malika2 wrote:
I'm surprised to see how well normal Marine/Terminator parts seem to fit with the Primarch models!


If you pick the right arm, as there seems a wide range in size and mount them just right on the torso piece, they look ok. I'm also using Ork! arms on this and other models actually. Same caveats apply.

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Epic--I love the face, and the ferocity it expresses. The shield is great, and I love the way you have incorporated the Thunderwolf onto the (massive) base.

My only criticism is the choice of the Dark Angels sword. Is this intentional--perhaps taken as a trophy from a defeated DA champion when re-fighting the Lion/Russ match? Otherwise, I think an axe would probably fit better for a warrior of the Rout.

And to chime in on the size issue, Vulkan is supposed to be the biggest Primarch, in terms of raw size and strength. Not sure how that might factor into an army composition but figured I'd mention it.

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 pantheralegionnaire wrote:

And to chime in on the size issue, Vulkan is supposed to be the biggest Primarch, in terms of raw size and strength. Not sure how that might factor into an army composition but figured I'd mention it.


That's cool! Thanks for the info - it makes sense.

The sword is still under review I like it for being the most precisely engineered GW sword. It is actually sharp and straight. I need a sword for game play reasons, and because there will be so many axes and hammers elsewhere in the army, but would very much appreciate tips on where to find one that is sharp and crisp and fitting.

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I think you'll find that there isn't a lot of 'definitive comparison' info out there regarding the Primarchs.

Magnus is usually described as the biggest, and until recently, the Alpha Legion had a Primarch almost as tall as Horus with the marines being unusually tall as well...

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But the later background seemed to suggest that Alpharius was shorter than the other Primarchs, enabling other marines to easily pretend to be the Primarch.

As for the Dark Angels sword, there are a lot of ways the character could have gotten it. But keep in mind that a lot of the Fallen who escaped the aftermath at Caliban ended up in the Eye of Terror. Would be interesting to see what the Spaces Wolves would think of the Dark Angels after finding out about this little split within the Legion...

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We've also been told that everything is canon, more or less.

I prefer the excellent Index Astartes Alpha Legion article for that!

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I've followed lots of your blogs migs, and I can't wait to see where this new one takes you!

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i like the sword...
to me, there is nothing on the sword that makes it look specifically DA, like feathers for example...
the shape of the blade is cool...

i used a DA blade to replace the broken one on Commander Culln, and on that mini the blade seems to evoke the shape of a scorpion, and thus not bring DA's to mind when looking at it...

here it just looks suitably barbaric and brutal...

keep up the good work!!!

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 jah-joshua wrote:
i like the sword...
to me, there is nothing on the sword that makes it look specifically DA, like feathers for example...
the shape of the blade is cool...

...

here it just looks suitably barbaric and brutal...



Thanks, that's exactly how I see it!

And thank god for the Primarch size comments, finally the bottle neck has opened and the topic is getting proper momentum!



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It IS definitely a large, scary (and sharp--good point, Migs, especially given the earlier discussion of how dull the axes are) sword! I don't dislike it; just recognized it and wondered about the choice. Certainly for game play it makes sense to have it as a sword--the Power Axe/Maul/Sword rules are significant to be sure.

Anyway, in fluff terms, I do like the concept that he took it off a Dark Angels champion after fighting the rematch challenge--of course, it could just be a scary sword.

Going back to the Primarch discussion, I got the size reference from the HH novel "Vulkan Lives" where it states it explicitly. Of course, as pointed out, that could just be the novelist's assertion. The model is certainly bulky--his shoulder armor is very like the Dreadnought greaves and compared to Fulgrim or Lorgar, he's clearly bigger. Angron also looks pretty huge, though, and his aggressive charge posture would look pretty good on a Wolf Guard...

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I'm having such a blast the project has fast spiraled into a focused, grand vision. Where Legion ebb and flow took years and years of work, creating the Rout may be a thunderclap of a year to get to a full warrior band at 2000 pts. My rout will be a band of ridiculously diverse beings that still share a common, strictly focused, raw and austere aesthetic.

There are major advances to report. And possibly pictures Monday to stay on the weekly cadence.

I have done all the airbrush base color work, and then hand painted the skin for three new models. Balewolf, the first Wulfen and the Assault Cannon Iron Priest terminator. Airbrushing still feels like cheating. It is such a fantastic tool to apply zenith highlight and incredibly smooth depth. I think it combines quite well with my weatherly and gritty brush work to create something that really doesn't look tool driven, has enough technical definition but also emotion. I will now switch gears to finishing Jarl Balewolf, as him and the wolf are fast becoming the core of this whole exercise. The visual heart of what imagery I am after. Finishing them may take a week of long evenings. But should be worth your wait.

I really enjoy painting these. I get the same meditative kick out of it as I always do, but it doesn't feel representative or so utterly unforgiving as the water colourly flowing shading of say Alpharius and Alpharius. It's also very clear that I am doing something very new to myself. Black primer, airbrush, oils, Legion learnings, plus all the vehicle painting learnings... Very heavy use of pigments.

After a week of Army builder gymnastics, I've put together a 2000pt group that can do the Sky Warriors proud on the battle field and be fun to build. One take away during Legion was that it is actually a really fun game and I want to play more. But it's annoying to build so much random stuff that doesn't really work so well as an army. - and this happens by default if you take years to build as the game changes so much. 7th Edition Space wolves still have all the hall marks of what have always been my favorite playing force. Speed, very active in all the different game phases and best suited for ripping enemies apart in close combat. I have on purpose stayed away from Psykers though. They don't work so well with my vision for the 13th, and being able to re-learn the game and 7th edition without magic will be helpful step.

The Company of the Great Wolf supplement has proven the perfect platform to build my heroes, and again, I will use Sentinels of Mars (Terra) allied department to build some of my loved Mechanicus things. I will later ad a small guard component using the solar auxilia.

In the Wolf Codex, there is a great little passage that describes the tunnels, halls, ducts and caves of Fang being full of heavily armed thralls, servitors, wolves and the combinations of the three. Building these will be a ton of fun. And my bit box is filling up with concepts that make the Surgical Thralls look like Neighbors.

What has made me most excited though, is the idea to outsource the Drop pod and vehicle pool manual labor. I have hired the great folks of Frontline Gaming to purchase, clean, assemble and prime black 3 Drop Pods and 2 Storm Wolves, that I will then painstakingly paint to look like massive things of steel and adamantium. This is the stuff that has always been pure pain for me, and realizing I can concentrate on creating amazing models and adding value only where there is value to add on the vehicles is a real epiphany for somebody working 60 hour weeks.

As ever, excited to hear your thoughts.



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Sounds cool! I look forward to seeing what you convert next.


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Awesome blog
Keep up the good work!
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Hope the links work, because Rhuncir Gorevlkae says hello!

Rhuncir Gorevlkae, called Lord Balewolf, Jarl by migsula, on Flickr

Rhuncir Gorevlkae, called Lord Balewolf, Jarl by migsula, on Flickr

Rhuncir Gorevlkae, called Lord Balewolf, Jarl by migsula, on Flickr



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Okay, images don't work :/ anybody have experience of linking from FLICKR?

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I suggest uploading to dakka rather than flickr.

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So you are saying that FLICKR is a fickle mistress eh?

I have a little hobby-thread going in the P&M section. Some say it's the best blog on Dakka, some don't agree, most belive it would be better if I finished at least one project some time this century and not just kept starting new ones.
Check it out, you just might like it.

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Well DAKKA is a notorious killer of picture quality The compression is so severe/archaic. Interestingly, the hot linking worked on other forums. Too bad my favorite all time web forum, Dakka, needs to be the worst user experience...

I'll link from blogger.



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Really? Because I don't have a problem with Dakka compression. Plus, if you're posting here, you might as well attach here.

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Balkwolf is done (minus a pool of blood and spatter on the base after final varnish on the base)

Let me know what you think!








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Wow!

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Fantastic!

Also, as I'm no expert, if Dakka has some issues with photo compression and quality, please open up a thread in NUTS & BOLTS so Legoburner can hear about it and address it - thanks!

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I have a little hobby-thread going in the P&M section. Some say it's the best blog on Dakka, some don't agree, most belive it would be better if I finished at least one project some time this century and not just kept starting new ones.
Check it out, you just might like it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/385168.page 
   
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Hmm, will this be the beginning of a new trend?

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I really love the Jarl and his Wolf. The use of the red as a spot color (even on the wolf's mouth) really helps--this is a big model after all--and I especially like the wolf emblem on the right shoulder. The sword looks terrific at the end of the day, and the Daemon head also works, in part because of the red again. I think the pool of blood will only add in this regard and will be a nice contrast to the very urban and realistic looking base.

I love the whiteness of the bones--very realistic--and the intensity and ferocity on his face is great. Great fangs, too.

My only question would be whether you want to tie in a different spot color on the wolf's bionic eye. Yellowy orange? Blue doesn't really feel right, but it strikes me that something there would brighten and break up the wolf, and also draw the eye to the face.

Anyway, fantastic as always, and I love it that you are delegating the tedium of assembly and priming, but saving the fun painting for yourself! Great use of time which, as you have pointed out, is limited. I also am very glad that you are running with the concept, and that your energy and enthusiasm are so high! Keep it up! Hopefully Forge World will give you another couple of good Primarch Models that you can adapt.

If not, your plans of the Mechanicum, thrall/wolf/servitors, and Imperial troops can surely keep you busy and pleased, and will be a joy to behold no doubt. The red will work with Mechanicum, but any thoughts of coloration on the Imperial troops? You always do a great job of making the entire force coherent, and I look forward to seeing the 2000-point army come together!

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Thanks guys! So good to get some comments.

Pantheralegionnaire: I'm pondering the eye too. It's currently with this uber reflective metallic, so I know a touch of ink here and there will make a nice effect, and the plan was red, but also there is enough red. With each project I tend to decide NOT to use one primary color to make it tougher and to have a distinct visual. With Legion it was Red, this time it'll be either green or blue. Likely green. Which points to blue

I'm absolutely positive Forge World will cater this project so nicely. Cannot even describe how amazing it will be when they eventually do Leman Russ and actual SW kits. But I'm really happy I started before all the toys. The Mechanicus stuff will still have a wolfy theme, and I think I will try to find something different than a lot of red. Currently I think a ton of metal, as I'm really enjoying the metallics at the moment.



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I decided to edit a post about different aspects that have come up. For the (Alpha) Legion project, at times random posts about inspiration, vision and what drives decision making seemed to be of big interest.

In the new Space Wolves codex, an applicant sees their Bio Mass grow by 80% when they receive the Canis Helix, and that on top of sturdy, tall, scandinavianesque physique of what I imagine the people of Fenris possess. Astartes are described as warriors gods in all the background. This is where I start. Legion was about doing my take on what the Plastic Space Marine kits should be. This is a celebration of Forge World's vision and taking everything up a notch as pieces of art that can stand on their own. I want my Sky Warriors to feel and look like the Warrior Gods they are. "True-scale or Art-scale" can be missing the point. It's not about numbers, it's about expressing the correct feeling.

For that end, hopefully many of you get the opportunity to see these in real life, with the right reference set of other miniatures. Until then, it's time for me to work on and finish a few human sized beings to give you that reference.

I am Finnish and grew up with Scandinavian folklore, children's books and general aesthetics, in the seasons of utter cold and darkness and endless days of the summer. So indirectly or directly that is one key inspiration. I draw from the same Northern European imagery Games Workshop and their Art Direction also drinks deeply from. I've spent three years of my life in the Uk and now three years in California. Both key influences.

The eyes on the wolf and the Sky Warriors are black metallic. This wonderful dark metallic paint that makes it as if the dark pit is staring at you what ever the angle. In the fluff the wolf eyes are described as golden, while Altansar Eldar and other good forces stuck in the Eye of Terror have black eyes. Putting the two together here.

Where Shaddes off Greye had a bunch of colors, each with grey added in, here I have a lot less, but full intense skin and reds for example. Very different aesthetic! Almost night and day, without pun intended. Legion in between was so very colorful, yet avoided red all together. Avoiding one primary color has been a great successful differentiator, and this time that might be avoiding green. And introducing some blue here and there.

I also nearly felt there are too many eye catchers on Balewolf. So much detail, bone, fur, gem, metal, skin, and if it wasn't for tying many of them together in categories of color and feel, the model would be overwhelming and lack focus/impact.

Basing has always been a very critical part of my miniatures. I feel I have consistently gone beyond what most other modelers have done with every single miniature in the army. It's about setting the world, giving a glimpse of the weather and wear and feel of the place. A place I define. I have used MIG city dirt and flat earth pigments to establish the base hue, so it is very brown grey and has a clear step change from both the Sky Warrior's and the Wolf's hue. And like everything with me that is very intentional. When the wolves go war, in art, they always bring the cold and the grey with them. That's how I feel and that's what I want to keep experimenting with. I will shy away from Snow, as that overly defines the terrain, but I want to continue to study subtle frosting effects and ice.



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