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bartender wrote:
I played a little of it (I did not buy it) I got maybe 2 hours in and the SJW crap was too much for me. I won't be buying the game.

Seaward wrote:
Gearbox has been going aggressively SJW and insulting vast demographics in some pretty graphic language on Twitter, so I'm skipping it on principle.

I was on the fence about buying this game because it was on Linux and it was from an apparently very funny and very good series, but I had just so many games from Indie Bundle that did not work on my old computer that I had games enough for years if I wanted to finish them all. Especially since I am supposed to finish writing my thesis for my PhD. But if this game was even loosing sales over being too SJW, that makes me want to buy it even MOAR.
I was there was a demo to check how well it runs on my machine.

I gave away my 360 to my younger brother in law.

Wish this was out on PS4 :(

IF YOU THREW THIS GAME IN THE GARBAGE, YOU NEED TO TAKE A LAZER SHOTGUN TO THE FACE. FETH YOU!!

WITH LOVE FROM MR. TORGUE'S GUITAR TO YOUR FAAAAAACEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

bartender has succesfully convinced me to buy this game. Well done, bartender!

OK, I was going to get it anyway. But still.

bartender wrote:


Having a quest from an angry lesbian to kill a man that hit on her?

Huh? It's one quest and I don't even want to start with how many quests ended up with the PC helping a raped woman or anything.

The depiction of all men in the game as either bad guys, morons or very feminine.

Handsome Jack? Brick? Mordecai? MOTHERFUNNING MR. GODDAMN TORQUE SON!

*Torgue voice off* Yeah...Handsome Jack pretty much went down as the best video game villain ever. Anyway, that poster was pretty much just trolling. If he posts again, I'll just request motyak to delete his post so those of us who want a decent conversation can keep a good thread. Motyak, and any other Mods reading, please don't nuke the thread because of one foul poster. We'll triangle-friend him, please just delete his posts and let the rest of us enjoy an amazing game.

*Torgue voice on* I'M GONNA BLOW UP THE FETHING MOON WITH MY FIST. FISTSPLOSIONS, MOTHER FETHERS!!! GO JUMP IN LAVA BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE BAD ASS.

Anyone got the Boganella shotgun yet, I've had it for a while and omg it is funny!

I played Claptrap and Athena and after reading everything here i will re-spec Athena and will try Willhelm next the upcoming weekend.

I just unlocked the Grinder, is it worth using?
Or another question: how do i find anything orange? ;-)

ORicK wrote:
I played Claptrap and Athena and after reading everything here i will re-spec Athena and will try Willhelm next the upcoming weekend.

I just unlocked the Grinder, is it worth using?
Or another question: how do i find anything orange? ;-)

Is the grinder worth using, you ask. That's funny!

You are joking right?

Right?

The grinder makes me uncontrollably happy. I loot so much more stuff in the right combinations just so I have a shot to turn some low whites and greens into beautiful blues and purples! Its makes your backpack upgrades worthwhile to haul all that grinder feed. The excitement after you hit grind and wait that two seconds for the weapon to spit out, constantly wondering if you'll get a higher level or not.

More addictive than the slots.

Yeah, and ceraunic storm Athena is a blast. Once I'm done with that three, I'll buff it up by running down Phalanx for some more tankiness. If I happen to get a super duper melee shield, I'd consider Xiphos, but I don't think its worth it until you have a legendary melee shield.

ORicK wrote:
I played Claptrap and Athena and after reading everything here i will re-spec Athena and will try Willhelm next the upcoming weekend.

I just unlocked the Grinder, is it worth using?
Or another question: how do i find anything orange? ;-)

Grinding 3 purple weapons of the same type should give you an orange weapon of that type...

In this game I'm finding that I'm swaping weapons much less often, I find a weapon I like and I stick with it for much longer then any of the other borderlands. I'm not sure I'll ever get rid of my ice cream truck gun.

 Catyrpelius wrote:
my ice cream truck gun.

Well, maybe I won't wait for the inevitable $30 version...

Actually i was NOT joking... :-)

I played until i unlocked the Grinder and used it twice with blue weapons and i got 2 purple ones.
But after that i had ran out of weapons.
But, more importantly, because of my work (i live in hotels a few days each week), i also ran out of time so i can play again tomorrow.
And i will!

And now i know that i will change my Athena to another build and, more importantly, will use the grinder a lot and i assume it combines perfectly with the slot machines at Moxxi.

In the first Borderlands i often had (blue or orange) weapons that i used for many levels. A few i used with every character and there were many weapons i just loved and, even after i did not use them anymore, had weirdly become attached to (and i remember them to this day) and kept in my vault.
In the second Borderlans there were fewer weapons that were good for a long time, usually they were useless after 3-5 levels.

So i like the statement that it might be worth it again to stick to weapons. I look forward to weapons i get attached to...

Yeah, I started running a Phalanx Athena build, which while decent, was fairly boring. There wasn't a whole lot of incentive for me at the time to use any particular weapon type, especially because good class mods are a bit of a rarity early on. Ceraunic storm can be really, really strong against both mobs and big baddies due to how the bonuses stack up.

You have a few good skills that help manage trash mobs through AOE, chaining, and slamming bonuses, and applying DoT to big baddies generates stacks of Maelstorm which in turn helps tear down the bigguns quicker with crazy elemental DoT.

That and the class mods that affect that tree also provide SMG Damage and Magazine size bonuses, which happens to be a fairly versatile and common weapon type. Even better, is that Maliwan makes SMGs, which have good all around stats on average, and excellent elemental damage, which is the only kind of weapon you should ever use with that type of build anyways.

Point is, the whole character becomes very synergistic even half-way down the tree. Throw in a nova or spike shield with a tesla/singularity grenade mod and you can farm stacks and baddies easy peasy. For your second tree when you're Lvl 25+, Phalanx becomes even better. Bonuses to the Aspis work really well with things like Zeus Rage and storing Elemental damage/increasing Aspis damage. When you combine the skill in Ceraunic Storm that regenerates Shields for every Electrocute status active with the one in the Phalanx tree that increases shield capacity and absorbs damage into shields will turn you practically invincible.

While Wilhelm was my first love and a total monster with Wolf pimped out, Athena is rapidly growing to be my favourite for her hectic close in playstyle.

The grinder is great because you can use to turn other weapons into SMGs and other fun stuff so you can only Purples. Life is good in the Pre-sequel.

ORicK wrote:
Actually i was NOT joking... :-)

I played until i unlocked the Grinder and used it twice with blue weapons and i got 2 purple ones.
But after that i had ran out of weapons.
But, more importantly, because of my work (i live in hotels a few days each week), i also ran out of time so i can play again tomorrow.
And i will!

And now i know that i will change my Athena to another build and, more importantly, will use the grinder a lot and i assume it combines perfectly with the slot machines at Moxxi.

In the first Borderlands i often had (blue or orange) weapons that i used for many levels. A few i used with every character and there were many weapons i just loved and, even after i did not use them anymore, had weirdly become attached to (and i remember them to this day) and kept in my vault.
In the second Borderlans there were fewer weapons that were good for a long time, usually they were useless after 3-5 levels.

So i like the statement that it might be worth it again to stick to weapons. I look forward to weapons i get attached to...

Unless for whatever reason your really short on cash you should be grinding your weapons and mods instead of selling them.

I'm really suprised by the amount of content in this game.

Does anyone have a good guide to grinding?

It seems that once you get into blue and purple weapon grinding just throwing in three of the same type of weapon doesn't work.

Everything we know of about the Grinder.

Long story short, you can't grind purples together. Purples are only used to create a Legendary, which requires 2 Legendaries and a Purples to create 1 Legendary of the same type as the Purple you put in.

 Blacksails wrote:
Everything we know of about the Grinder.

Long story short, you can't grind purples together. Purples are only used to create a Legendary, which requires 2 Legendaries and a Purples to create 1 Legendary of the same type as the Purple you put in.

I had found a similar article earlier but the one you posted is better laid out.

I guess overall the grinder isn't going to be that useful on your first play through. I'm at the point now where I'm ready to travel back up to the space station and I haven't seen a legendary drop yet. It also looks like moonstones are really important for the grinder but I'm still using them to upgrade my backpack.

THE ONLY THING THE GRINDER SHOULD BE USED FOR IS TAKING OFF MOXXI'S CLOTHES IN THE BADASSEST WAY POSSIBLE!!! CLOTHESPLOSION!!!!

THAT WOULD BE RESPECTFULLY, BECAUSE NOTHING IS MORE BADASS THAN TREATING WOMEN WITH RESPECT.

EXPLOSIONS!!!!

*torgue voice off*

Mr. Torgue does not actually speak for me. He's just awesome and needs his voice heard.

*Torgue voice on*

YOU AREN'T BADASS ENOUGH TO EVEN LOOK AT MOXXI!! GO PUNCH YOURSELF UNTIL YOU'RE BACK TO BEING LEVEL 1!!!



*Torgue off*
Also, if any MODs lose their sense of humor, and begin to hate Torgue, I'll make him disapp-

YOU CAN'T MAKE TORGUE DISAPPEAR, MEATSACK!! IM GONNA SHOVE A JETPACK SO FAR UP YOUR ASS, THEY'LL FEEL IT BAFK IN BORDERLANDS ONE!!! AND I WASN'T EVEN IN THAT GAME!!!

Uh...looks like Torgue is here to stay. I don't want a jetpack up my ass. Sounds painful.

I just bought this today. Apparently I need to get it into my playstation immediately.

YOU BET YOUR ASS YOU DO!!

On a more serious note, the bugs/glitches in the game are grating on me a little. Small things like some trash mob falling through the floor so we can't kill them, or trying to scroll through the inventory and it won't work.

There are other slightly bigger issues that can affect completing missions. One of them had an AI pathing issue where the character in question wouldn't make the first turn in a hallway, and then randomly wander about, making it impossible to complete the mission. I've had bosses disappear for a minute or two, only to reappear and do nothing, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Its a litte disappointing, as I really like all new features and story-telling. The scaling is soooo much better than BL2, and low grav and laser weapons are great additions. But sometimes it feels like I'm playing a late beta release.

Ah well, here's to hoping for some good patches and solid expansions later.

The preview for the new character, the Baroness (Hammerlock's sister), was up somewhere. The short of it is that she has a tree dedicated to sniping (on par with Zer0), a tree dedicated to freezing everything, and another where you can nominate a player in your group to be your 'servant' where you both get various buffs and abilities/stacks.

Looks fun anyways.

Baroness? Is this after the body double?

Edit-sorry, wouldn't be a proper response without Torgue chiming in. *ahem*

ANOTHER LADY? GENDER EQUALITY!!!! WOMEN ARE BADASS TOO.

Well done.

Yes, the two characters we know of so far are Jack's Body Double (might be named 'Timothy'), and Aurelia, the Baroness. Aurelia is Hammerlock's sister, and they, well, don't get along, to put it lightly.

Her action skill is releasing an ice shard that goes around and deals cryo damage. She's a hunter, and a cold-hearted bitch, and her trees reflect that. Lots of stacks in all the trees to have fun with, and if you enjoyed Zero, you'll likely enjoy Aurelia.

Nothing so far is known about 'Timothy' and his skills.

I eagerly await more information.

I'm not sure if I'll play Aurelia, as snipers don't interest me, and while cryo damage is strong, her final tree about servants also doesn't appeal to me.

I'm quite happy with Wilhelm and Athena, and I'm slowly working away at Nisha, who I figure I'll like a lot more when I get dual pistols.

NO WONDER HAMMERLOCK DOESN'T LIKE HIS SISTER. HAMMERLOCK IS A REAL MAN WHO LOOOOOVES SHOTGUNS! SNIPER RIFLES ARE FOR PUSSIES.



I'd like to quietly raise my hand and say I like sniper rifles in borderlands.



WELL, THEN YOU'RE A PUSSY.


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Serious question time: is it possible to actually give yourself MPD? I'm wondering if my back and forth with Torgue is unhealthy.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

Serious question time: is it possible to actually give yourself MPD? I'm wondering if my back and forth with Torgue is unhealthy.

I don't know about that, but I know you'd be accepted in the tumblr communities if you declared yourself a video-game-kin who shared a headmate with Mr. Torgue.

 Blacksails wrote:
On a more serious note, the bugs/glitches in the game are grating on me a little. Small things like some trash mob falling through the floor so we can't kill them, or trying to scroll through the inventory and it won't work.

There are other slightly bigger issues that can affect completing missions. One of them had an AI pathing issue where the character in question wouldn't make the first turn in a hallway, and then randomly wander about, making it impossible to complete the mission. I've had bosses disappear for a minute or two, only to reappear and do nothing, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Its a litte disappointing, as I really like all new features and story-telling. The scaling is soooo much better than BL2, and low grav and laser weapons are great additions. But sometimes it feels like I'm playing a late beta release.

Ah well, here's to hoping for some good patches and solid expansions later.

The preview for the new character, the Baroness (Hammerlock's sister), was up somewhere. The short of it is that she has a tree dedicated to sniping (on par with Zer0), a tree dedicated to freezing everything, and another where you can nominate a player in your group to be your 'servant' where you both get various buffs and abilities/stacks.

Looks fun anyways.

What system are you playing this on. I haven't had any of these problems on the PC.

 Catyrpelius wrote:


What system are you playing this on. I haven't had any of these problems on the PC.

PC as well.

Its only occasional, and I've read similar accounts from others online.

On my second playthrough with my friend I encountered entirely different bugs than my first run through, so it could be luck of the draw.

None of it was too game breaking, but occasionally annoying.

 Blacksails wrote:
Well done.

Yes, the two characters we know of so far are Jack's Body Double (might be named 'Timothy'), and Aurelia, the Baroness. Aurelia is Hammerlock's sister, and they, well, don't get along, to put it lightly.

Her action skill is releasing an ice shard that goes around and deals cryo damage. She's a hunter, and a cold-hearted bitch, and her trees reflect that. Lots of stacks in all the trees to have fun with, and if you enjoyed Zero, you'll likely enjoy Aurelia.

Nothing so far is known about 'Timothy' and his skills.

I eagerly await more information.

I'm not sure if I'll play Aurelia, as snipers don't interest me, and while cryo damage is strong, her final tree about servants also doesn't appeal to me.

I'm quite happy with Wilhelm and Athena, and I'm slowly working away at Nisha, who I figure I'll like a lot more when I get dual pistols.

Fan the hammer is probably th best tree I've seen in a BL game, though I've only played Nisha atm, once you get dual pistols, it gets amazing, although make sure you use Hyperion pistols, I've got an action leverage and lets just say I consistently outrange sniper rifles the axcuaecy is that good.