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Man the Cold War was a good time, large military forces, bottomless military budgets, a clear and present enemy to hate, a great soundtrack, etc.

Not like today, these terrorists and insurgents just aren't the same, too low intensity, too much cloak and dagger nonsense.

We need a Top Gun remake.

Pffft. Iron Eagle was better.

 Easy E wrote:
Pffft. Iron Eagle was better.

If you have opinions such as those, you need to take a long deep look in the mirror and ask how you can live with yourself!

Wolverines!

PhantomViper wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Pffft. Iron Eagle was better.

If you have opinions such as those, you need to take a long deep look in the mirror and ask how you can live with yourself!

YOu better check yourself Viper, or we'll have to take this below the hard deck.

Putin agrees with me and has my back.

 Easy E wrote:

YOu better check yourself Viper, or we'll have to take this below the hard deck.

See? You can't even come back with a quote from Iron Eagles!

 Easy E wrote:

Putin agrees with me and has my back.

So now you resort to lying to try and prove you point?

With the sheer amount of man boobs in display in Top Gun there is no way that Putin, a world renowned man boob connoisseur, would prefer Iron Eagles to Top Gun!

I mean, just look at this!



Just admit it, Top Gun is the greatest movie ever made!

I yield to your homo-eroticism! Mercy!

This thread got weird.

PhantomViper wrote:

I mean, just look at this!

 Ouze wrote:
We need a Top Gun remake.

Absolutely not. Honestly one of the most overrated films of all time.

Archer already did the best remake.

Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

They do. And they also know we do not have the political will to take any kinetic action against them

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

They do. And they also know we do not have the political will to take any kinetic action against them

Pretty much this, Putin has noting but contempt for Obama, and is using his perceieved weakness as a exuse to commit to actions they probably wouldn't take otherwise.

 Supertony51 wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

They do. And they also know we do not have the political will to take any kinetic action against them

Pretty much this, Putin has noting but contempt for Obama, and is using his perceieved weakness as a exuse to commit to actions they probably wouldn't take otherwise.

I know right. Putin's dreamy...

 Supertony51 wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

They do. And they also know we do not have the political will to take any kinetic action against them

Pretty much this, Putin has noting but contempt for Obama, and is using his perceieved weakness as a exuse to commit to actions they probably wouldn't take otherwise.

It's not contempt for Obama, it is contempt for the West in general.

 Easy E wrote:

 Supertony51 wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Is Russian and or Chinese military really so far behind? I mean Russia has proven to be very cunning many times in the past. Putin for example cant be stupid, they annexed like 1/2 of Ukraine AND they are getting away with it. I suspect Russia might have some tricks up their sleeves. They must know what we are capable of.

They do. And they also know we do not have the political will to take any kinetic action against them

Pretty much this, Putin has noting but contempt for Obama, and is using his perceieved weakness as a exuse to commit to actions they probably wouldn't take otherwise.

It's not contempt for Obama, it is contempt for the West in general.

LOL, I don't know man, have you seen the footage of Obama in Russia meeting diplomats and they refuse to shake his hand? He is considered a joke.

I wonder what would happen if we had a repeat of this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

China and the US were able to de-escalate and defuse a potentially volatile situation. Would Russia be inclined to do the same, or press for a political advantage?