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Shadeglass Maze

I've been paying attention to this thread, and I think the image definitely should have been credited... but it's sometimes hard to even know where to give credit.

The issue seems very black and white to some people (and there are obvious situations where it is - such as the article from the OP ideally should have shown the source). But I think most blogs and articles showing an example image might not know the source... I think that there should be a decent amount of "fair use" allowed without assigning bad intent.

The fact that the site in question removed the image rather than crediting it is a bummer, but could also be due to the very fast DMCA route that was taken.

So overall, it is interesting, but I think not such a simple issue across the board... although individual cases are obviously much clearer.

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So, in the interest of how to give credit:

Fount on design sponge http://www.designsponge.com/2011/03/how-to-credit-just-check-the-poster.html
Poster by Pia, Erin and Yvette

Even if I say this poster is awesome in the extreme some people do not like being linked or cited so I have to be prepared to get rid of it.

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Shadeglass Maze

Yeah, the complexity of that flowchart just about sums it up, though

You credited the image in your post, but what kind of conversation would be had on forums if every post using a reference / inspiration image had to go find the original source? I posted in a commission painter's thread recently and found an image of a tree frog from my phone. That's already a bit of work to do when not at a PC, but I did and posted it and had a discussion... if every image had to be linked to the original source, with no fair use on a forum, blog post, etc... then you would have less discussion than you already have (there has been a bit of a decline in forums in general as people resort to mobile).

Out of curiosity, why isn't a problem for Pinterest and the like to show tons of images from around the web in one place? (I've actually been wondering about that)

I can totally see someone needing to reference if they are posting an article and making ad revenue or the like, but it just seems like if the extremes were taken, very little could actually take place on the net around images like it does currently. That, or there would need to be a structural change, such that images automatically referenced where they came from or the like.
   
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RiTides wrote:...why isn't a problem for Pinterest and the like to show tons of images from around the web in one place? (I've actually been wondering about that)
As politely as possible, I agree 100% with this question. You appear to be a super swell person with a genuinely quizzical mind. I truly appreciate that.

RiTides wrote:I can totally see someone needing to reference if they are posting an article and making ad revenue or the like, but it just seems like if the extremes were taken, very little could actually take place on the net around images like it does currently.
Exactly. As a super-polite addition to your well-presented idea, I would say that, if somebody is promoting themselves, their product/brand, falsely claiming credit, or in any way monetizing somebody else's pictures, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread. If somebody used a pic of mine in a thread on a forum and said, "I don't know who did this, but it looks great!" I would not be upset. If they used my picture as a banner for their site, I would politely take offense.



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 Crablezworth wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Crablezworth, would something like that have been enough for you personally?


My preference is that the image at the very least link back to the source. Even putting the gallery link that it's from is usually fine. The issue in this case is individuals stealing the image and hosting somewhere else.

I'm generally of the opinion that proliferation of my images is for the most part positive, but as someone who has always been dead set against watermarking it stings when no attempt is made link/credit. if it's not linking back or at least giving someone enough information to go on, like even an alias/username it's certainly only helping put clicks on someone else's site and if monetized food on other tables than my own.


The other thing to bear in mind is that oftentimes images are used or linked with no attempt to profit off them. The TMP link above is a case of an individual comparing "proper" BFG ships (yours) to a Shapeways one using your image as an example, which is a very different situation to a for-profit website using your image to illustrate an article. Same deal with many of the forum posted images above.

Ghodorah has come in on this thread pretty suddenly, hard and angry. Than again, Crablezworth only gave BoLS an hour to respond to his contact before going the DMCA, so there's that as well.

   
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It was a DMCA notice was it not? Literally just a notification that they'd taken someone's work like he'd already given to BOLS, but with some weight behind it. It's not like he warned them and then got the site shut down after an hour, he warned them and then after an hour sent them an official warning.

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