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 Desubot wrote:
 IllumiNini wrote:
Frazzled wrote:There is the political issue as well. The High Lords of Terra (or whatever GW calls them now) would immediately obliterate the chapter and him.

A live primarch is much more of threat to control than an ork waugh or Demon Lords in the Eye. The assassins would come in waves and if that didn't work the chapter would be declared heretic (for some made up reason or none at all) and hunted down with zesty enthusiasm.


For a group of people who are supposed to be ruling the entire Imperium, I don't think they'd have such a childish and foolish knee-jerk reaction, not to mention that flies in the face of all logical sense. First of all, a living, breathing, conscious Primarch represents one of the best chances the Imperium has against any of its enemies - especially Chaos. Also, if he were to be removed from stasis - especially alive - it would allow some of the purest geneseed stock since the last of the loyalist Primarchs disappeared after the HH. Thirdly, I don't think that the Primarch would be so naive as to think himself above even cooperating with the Council of Terra, which means that they may not be able to control him, but at least they have the most powerful asset they could possibly have helping them (short of the other Primarchs returning as well and/or the Emperor rising from the Golden Throne).

Then there's the issue of wiping out the Ultramarines and many of their Successor Chapters (at least their confirmed successors). I doubt they would take it lightly the council intentionally killed their Primarch. Not to mention there's Ultramar....

Why do you think the Council of Terra would consider him a threat and/or Roboute would make himself a threat? Because either case doesn't make sense to me.


Orblivion wrote:It's just a matter of it being kind of silly in the sense that after however many thousands of years he's been in stasis, they still can't tell whether or not he is healing. That, to me, indicates that he is in fact NOT healing.


Not being able to tell is not the same as it not happening at all, though I can appreciate and agree with your conclusion that he isn't healing. Given that times isn't 100% frozen in stasis (though the speed at which it operates is minuscule at best), I'm almost sure he is dying from the poison rather than healing or maintaining his current state.


I think you underestimate the human nature. the second the HLoT feel their influence would be taken from them, even slightly where the 500 worlds of ultramar start worshiping or following rowboat, is when the assassins come out to try and take care of it quietly. ironically rowboat is the kinda primearch that didn't even want to really rule. he would rather drag in another primearch to rule imprium secundus while he ran off fighting or whatever. but he is also has a ton of pride for the emperor and his legacy. so seeing the inefficient system in place now will probably be the driving force for him to unseat the HLoTs power.


He's the one who designed this 'inefficient" system, though.
   
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Guilliman didn't really design the current system. What he did was step down and allow humans to rule. The pettiness, shortsightedness and greed of humans is what created the dystopic Imperium of 40K.

The system Guilliman designed still functions in Ultramar. Because it is run by Space Marines.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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