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Ahh I do see your points of view. I guess KP does have a fair share of instrumental. I never saw the FW description of him, so thats another check point of KP relevance. I did say Lorgar was the orchestrator of it all however meaning the heresy and all that came up to it. KP had his guidance (though a majority of those around Lorgar worshiped the old gods and if not KP anyone else could have guided him), but only Lorgar had the ear of the other primarchs, the majesty and charisma to gain momentum, and the desire for a greater purpose. In closing Ill stick to the argument that without Lorgar none would have happened. And KP helped guide him to the Gods, but Lorgar had the plan after Monarchia.

SPOILER,
STOP READING

Legion shows Alpha Legion working with Cabal. But end of deliverance it shows Alpha had acquired the gene code as the kabal wished, but instead of handing it over Alpharius cuts ties by lunching the entity into deep space. I took from it, that the intention of them working with the cabal comes to fruition, and they have their own agenda for the gene code and primordial order, hence those rumors about them actually being loyalist still and having a master plan for the Emperor. I will go back to reread legion again, it was a long time ago. I appreciate the debate and your points of view, cheers and happy new year.