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For those who think that 300 points riptides would be worthless.... 300 points is the cost of mork/gorkanaut.

The possibility of bringing more than 3 is totally wrong. And if they become worthless for 300 points it's only because tau have many other great units, they need to be nerfed.

Those 4-5 overpowered MCs are the reason of tanks being not viable. Dark eldar, orks, necrons, and tyranids MCs are not a problem at all, but those stormsurge, riptide, WK and some daemons psyker beasts are awfully too powerful.


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Oppressor wrote:


The problem is not vehicles.

The problem is lack of damage tables for Monstrous and larger creatures.

That's what I think, vehicles are not an issue, some MCs (and the chance of spamming overpowered wargear like scatter lasers, D weapons, grav) are and make them useless in comparison.

Leviathan dreads are also around 300 pts and less durable than Riptides.

I voted for a redo of the vehicle rules.

Vehicles are such an integrated part of WH40K, that I don't think we should do away with them completely. However, having the Rogue Trader book here, in which vehicles do have a Toughness value and a Damage (D) capacity ( 'vehicular' for 'Wounds' ), and where the Lascannon deals 2d6 damage per hit...

Why even redo wgen we can just revert?