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2017/05/25 09:14:35
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
It is only a matter of time before someone pumps out an AoSRPG, so in the meantime, us Old Worlders will enjoy this Old World setting!
Who is to say C7 won't do a AoS style campaign?
Players start off in the OW and play through into the AoS.
Then, C7 releases a supplement setting for AoS.
"... and then after a ten thousand year long nap you awaken refreshed, but strangely, the world around you has changed. Oh, also, everything you ever knew and fought for is dead. Have fun!"
Yeah, let's not.
TLoZ BotW warhammer version? I like it.
But you COULD tie them if people wanted to. As long as you can play a demigryph knight I'd be fine.
2017/05/25 09:48:01
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Indeed you could.(good comparison btw, Nintendo is thinking of rebooting from there with things like Majora's mask being just a dream)
Pre-End Times: Your party is adventuring and surviving in the hostile Old World with rumblings of ill omens on the horizon.
End Times: Survive the events that ended the world the best you can while having a chance to take part in the epic battles like the dwarf's last stand or king Gilles' charge.
Realm of chaos: the world is engulfed in the realm of chaos and the dark gods walk the earth. Make a last stand and hope your soul survives? Rally to one of the incarnates and find a way out? Bring about your own plans of using powerful magic to escape chaos or embrace it?
Age of Myth: Be it through luck, cunning or mercy from the gods you find yourself out of hell and in the untamed mortal realms where Sigmar's pantheon seeks to bring order, the God-beasts show hostility to the intruders and empires and kingdoms are being created and expanding while chaos tries to find purchase at the edges of the realms.
Unless the characters get longevity the age of chaos and Sigmar would have to use their descendants to continue due to the age gap.
2017/05/25 10:16:24
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Olsch wrote: Fantastic news. I'm really excited for the new edition. So I guess this is not going to be an Age of Sigmar RPG but an old world setting right?
Indeed. This one will be WHRP. Now, when asked about warhammer 40k and AoS they said "no comment" rather than outright "no", so mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe they are doing all of the settings.
2017/05/25 12:16:17
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
I have no objections to an Age of Sigmar RPG or source books for the real Warhammer world RPG allowing players to expand to Age of Sigmar. I've yet to meet someone in real life though who is excited by Age of Sigmar background, though. Seems to me like you would just pick your favorite setting and play in it instead of trying a crossover, but I guess there are people who like that kind of thing.
Baron Klatz wrote: Realm of chaos: the world is engulfed in the realm of chaos and the dark gods walk the earth. Make a last stand and hope your soul survives? Rally to one of the incarnates and find a way out? Bring about your own plans of using powerful magic to escape chaos or embrace it?
Is this what happened canonically and why a whole lot of stuff survived the end of the world than you would commonly consider plausible?
I haven't read any Age of Sigmar background since the beginning when all there was was Sigmar flying through space and humping random dragons he happened across.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2017/05/25 14:48:45
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
I have no objections to an Age of Sigmar RPG or source books for the real Warhammer world RPG allowing players to expand to Age of Sigmar. I've yet to meet someone in real life though who is excited by Age of Sigmar background, though. Seems to me like you would just pick your favorite setting and play in it instead of trying a crossover, but I guess there are people who like that kind of thing.
Baron Klatz wrote: Realm of chaos: the world is engulfed in the realm of chaos and the dark gods walk the earth. Make a last stand and hope your soul survives? Rally to one of the incarnates and find a way out? Bring about your own plans of using powerful magic to escape chaos or embrace it?
Is this what happened canonically and why a whole lot of stuff survived the end of the world than you would commonly consider plausible?
I haven't read any Age of Sigmar background since the beginning when all there was was Sigmar flying through space and humping random dragons he happened across.
You know, considering how aloof you're trying to sound with all your blabber of the "real" warhammer (and I've seen you at War-of-sigmar so it really isn't a one-off), I'd suggest you went and actually bothered to read things rather than make such assumptions or even actually check out locally if there's people liking it.
2017/05/25 15:44:44
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Ya, Geifer you may not mean to, but you sound absolutely insufferable.
There is a lot of greatness in the AoS background. Is it all good? Of course not. You will like some bits more than others.
But WHF background was the same. Some bits were good. Some were freakin terrible.
Ultimately, AoS leaves room for plenty of WHF settings in its own setting, while also allowing Archaon to sword fight God-dragons.
2017/05/25 15:49:08
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Neronoxx wrote: Ya, Geifer you may not mean to, but you sound absolutely insufferable.
There is a lot of greatness in the AoS background. Is it all good? Of course not. You will like some bits more than others.
But WHF background was the same. Some bits were good. Some were freakin terrible.
Ultimately, AoS leaves room for plenty of WHF settings in its own setting, while also allowing Archaon to sword fight God-dragons.
Gotta-Catch'em all!
2017/05/25 16:02:30
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
BrookM wrote: All we need now is a reboot for the 40KRPG's.
I'd like that too - only this time with a game system that is the same for all of the various factions and what not...
The core was more or less the same though, it was just improved upon over time I suppose, depending on who was heading the project at the time? Though the cross compatibility was a pain in the ass to work with.
So, I'm all for a reboot, I got the books I want from the previous series anyway, so for me personally there's no need to keep reprinting those, especially not when a new edition and a new outlook on the setting can allow for new venues to be discovered.
Though I'm sure.. commencing down count!
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2017/05/25 16:11:27
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Is this what happened canonically and why a whole lot of stuff survived the end of the world than you would commonly consider plausible?
Indeed. Archaon opened three warp gates that drew the Old World into the realm of chaos and when it left the core was all that remained.
I personally wonder if this is why the core produces more materials when Sigmar's followers win victories and when there's wierd time flows in Azyrheim. Did it take properties from being exposed to the realm of chaos?
when all there was was Sigmar flying through space and humping random dragons he happened across.
Might want to lay off the fanfics there, it's a bad sign when they seep into your memories like that.
2017/05/25 16:16:46
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
I have no objections to an Age of Sigmar RPG or source books for the real Warhammer world RPG allowing players to expand to Age of Sigmar. I've yet to meet someone in real life though who is excited by Age of Sigmar background, though. Seems to me like you would just pick your favorite setting and play in it instead of trying a crossover, but I guess there are people who like that kind of thing.
Baron Klatz wrote: Realm of chaos: the world is engulfed in the realm of chaos and the dark gods walk the earth. Make a last stand and hope your soul survives? Rally to one of the incarnates and find a way out? Bring about your own plans of using powerful magic to escape chaos or embrace it?
Is this what happened canonically and why a whole lot of stuff survived the end of the world than you would commonly consider plausible?
I haven't read any Age of Sigmar background since the beginning when all there was was Sigmar flying through space and humping random dragons he happened across.
You know, considering how aloof you're trying to sound with all your blabber of the "real" warhammer (and I've seen you at War-of-sigmar so it really isn't a one-off), I'd suggest you went and actually bothered to read things rather than make such assumptions or even actually check out locally if there's people liking it.
It isn't a one-off alright. My opinion on Age of Sigmar does not change depending on where I post, nor do I make a secret of it. I have nothing good to say about the background of Age of Sigmar. I gave it a chance and read the first two or three campaign books. The fact that I say two or three should already tell you something, but I'll state it explicitly. Stylistically, the writing was dreadful and the narrative was simplistic, repetitive and entirely foreseeable. By the time I was done I was sure I read the same thing five or six times. I would add that it had all the worst parts of super hero comic books, but that is very much a question of taste. As you may have guessed, it is not to my taste.
Two or three books not enough for an opinion? 40k, of which I read more, is plagued by much the same problems these days. The first two End Times books, which had the benefit of a setting I am familiar with and that I like, were not works of art to begin with and quickly went downhill. I have no expectation that more recent background books for Age of Sigmar will improve my opinion as long as the same crew is at work writing and approving of new background material. All I have to go on is assurances by fans of Age of Sigmar that the background is getting more awesome with every release, and you'll have to excuse me if I don't put much stock in that.
As for checking locally for people who like Age of Sigmar, it may surprise you to hear this, but I've been one of only two people at my local store that prior to the General's Handbook tried to ease people into the thought that Age of Sigmar was off to a bad start but we should give GW a little time to fix it, that in time a decent game could come of this mess. Yes, I've been campaigning for people to not give up Age of Sigmar for dead, being among the most positive people around here in my area.
I don't tell people to join me in my views, but I'm not going to censor my opinion in an attempt to advertise for Age of Sigmar. Everyone can determine for themselves whether they like the background or not.
My intention wasn't even to trash talk Age of Sigmar. Yes, I consider old Warhammer real Warhammer. Big shocker I should be happy to read that they make a new game using the old background. Big shocker I should express my happiness in accordance with my opinion on the two background options we have. My point in this thread was to speak against a crossover campaign.GW themselves were careful enough, from all I've read, to let the World That Was remain shrouded in mystery in current Age of Sigmar. I'd argue that the old background is better off ending before End Times while the world is intact and ready for adventuring without any dread occurrences that herald the end of the world. People who want anything in between have the End Times background and, as I said before, if there is a source book for Age of Sigmar, they'll have something for a transition to the Mortal Realms and roleplay in it as well and can make their own crossover campaign if they like.
I see no benefit in creating something that will just annoy fans of the old setting, nor do i see a problem with providing fans of the new setting with a proper ruleset.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2017/05/25 16:25:18
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Is this what happened canonically and why a whole lot of stuff survived the end of the world than you would commonly consider plausible?
Indeed. Archaon opened three warp gates that drew the Old World into the realm of chaos and when it left the core was all that remained.
I personally wonder if this is why the core produces more materials when Sigmar's followers win victories and when there's wierd time flows in Azyrheim. Did it take properties from being exposed to the realm of chaos?
Thanks for the info. I would have preferred a more complete history of the time between the End Times and the Age of Chaos. The new world shrouded in mystery GW went with is all well and good, but if you sit with your friends and no one knows why their army with their leaders/incarnates/gods is still around dressing in the exact same style as before, it gets... funny.
Obviously GW wished to keep the old models around, and it was a good decision given the circumstances, but I've heard too much "why are these guys still" around when the background was all about big buff golden dudes with hammers punching big buff red dudes with axes to think I was the only one that wondered what was even going on. Too much empty in those endless realms with those endless possibilities. I would have wished for a more comprehensive introduction of the new setting.
Albertorius wrote: ...I though that Cubicle 7 getting GW's rpg license was old news, by now? I mean, it was announced what, a couple months ago?
It really wasn't confirmed by Cubicle 7. Grim and Perilious talked about it but we had no real confirmation on the company's side.
In the C7 FB post, several people have asked if this would be Old World or AoS. C7 has been saying it will be Old World, but to stay tuned for at what point it in the Old World.
Oooh, maybe they've walked it back a bit to the Time of Three Emperors, around the Mordheim sort of era? That would be a super rich setting for an RPG and defining the various factions and major characters in that time period would give them a lot more creative freedom for new background material than rehashing the Karl Franz era Empire for the fourth time.
ProtoClone wrote: Players start off in the OW and play through into the AoS.
Dude, that is an awesome idea.
You have the OWRPG, an End Times expansion, and then an AoSRPG.
I'm not a big fan of AoS as I think GW sold their souls and sold out Warhammer's legacy so they could slap a ™ after everything, but even I'd be interested in that.
Eh, tbh I'd prefer they keep things nice and distinct and left the End Times out of it entirely. I don't want to start up an Old World campaign and have to deal with the inevitable That Guy pestering me to advance the timeline of the story so they can play their preferred AoS era character. Plus how would that work? None of the plebs who'd be making up an Old World adventuring party would survive through to AoS even if the End Times hadn't happened purely on the basis they wouldn't live long enough, and you couldn't even add in some dynastic mechanic to have AoS descendants of OW characters, since barring a tiny handful of deities the whole OW population dies off probably thousands of years before AoS even begins.
Nah, better to give us a rich OWRPG and then give AoS fans an RPG of their own so that both can be given the depth and tonal focus they require rather than trying to hack together some system for artificially linking the two.
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2017/05/25 16:44:42
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! (And more to come!)
Setting it around the time of Mordheim would be really interesting - lots going in the Empire and beyond.
Time of Legends would make a good non human campaign setting
Warhammer already has at least one Elseworld with Bloodbowl so a Warhammer world that survived the End times mostly intact would be possible.
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