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Well hopefully that turns out true then.

You paid 220ish for an MC that could tank more damage than a Warhound Titan. Tau parked in the corner and disintegrated everything with impunity up until super friends death stars hit the table. Do you see where people might think you are spoiled? That's the most likely scenario here. Tau are not performing that poorly, especially on the Dakka battle report thread. 8 pt firewarriors rock the house.

Here's the thing though: People who play All-Terminator, All-Bike, All-whatever lists (Unless it's purchased purely for being The New Competitive Hotness) are used to it not being 100% optimal all the time.

The guy I know who's always played all Deathwing is super happy with 8th because he can legally play all deathwing - he knows it's not incredibly competitive but he likes terminators. The guy who has always played all Haemonculus covens is happy because again, not an amazing list, but he's gained a few tricks and improvements.

It's only the dudes who went out and bought an all-bike Eldar army or an all big suit Tau army wholesale mid-7th and painted them to 3 color minimum with an airbrush who are salty with the 8th changes. Because TBH they liked being big fish in a little pond, any time they went to big tournaments they were clobbered by serious competitive players with their cookie cutter netlists.

The only relatively casual spam-list player I know who is justifiably pissed about 8th is the guy who played an all-dreadnought list. And that's because he had purchased, built, and painted EIGHT official GW drop pods for his army and now he has absolutely no models that can use them (The only power armored models he has are flamer-and melta-armed tactical and sternguard squads because he runs a dragon themed custom chapter.)

And I don't blame him. He got 100% fethed by 8th, and I'm reeeeeally hoping that the clusterfeth that is drop pods gets fixed later this month in the marine dex.

the_scotsman wrote:
Here's the thing though: People who play All-Terminator, All-Bike, All-whatever lists (Unless it's purchased purely for being The New Competitive Hotness) are used to it not being 100% optimal all the time.

The guy I know who's always played all Deathwing is super happy with 8th because he can legally play all deathwing - he knows it's not incredibly competitive but he likes terminators. The guy who has always played all Haemonculus covens is happy because again, not an amazing list, but he's gained a few tricks and improvements.

It's only the dudes who went out and bought an all-bike Eldar army or an all big suit Tau army wholesale mid-7th and painted them to 3 color minimum with an airbrush who are salty with the 8th changes. Because TBH they liked being big fish in a little pond, any time they went to big tournaments they were clobbered by serious competitive players with their cookie cutter netlists.

The only relatively casual spam-list player I know who is justifiably pissed about 8th is the guy who played an all-dreadnought list. And that's because he had purchased, built, and painted EIGHT official GW drop pods for his army and now he has absolutely no models that can use them (The only power armored models he has are flamer-and melta-armed tactical and sternguard squads because he runs a dragon themed custom chapter.)

And I don't blame him. He got 100% fethed by 8th, and I'm reeeeeally hoping that the clusterfeth that is drop pods gets fixed later this month in the marine dex.

I am not that Tau player and I am very salty about where the Tau are balance wise. Your throwing people opinions under a bus with no idea of who they are or how they are adapting to 8th and assuming they have no idea what is good or not or even what they ran in 7th and now in 8th with success. People with more mixed lists are only doing marginally better than the old 7e suit spam lists.