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topaxygouroun i wrote:
pismakron wrote:
topaxygouroun i wrote:
Shooting is not out and it's one of the better Artillery armies out there, Rhino 74 points and 1 CP - you get 8 S4 AP -2 shot's when close enough, that's a hella good deal, same with dual fist/combi Helbrutes


Stratagem only affects one weapon, not the whole vehicle. 1 CP to upgrade the ap on one combi bolter is a really bad deal. There is really not much use for that stratagem unfortunately. Maybe on a hellbrute? but honestly a disappointment. Not even sure it covers havoc launchers (it would at least be an ok purchase then). Maybe it does, don't have the book with me right now.


It does not. Only combi-bolters, heavy bolters and twin heavy bolters. I agree that the stratagem is marginal.


Where can we get a twin heavy bolter in TS? Land raider comes to mind. Can the hellbrute pick a twin heavy bolter? (only way to make decent use of the stratagem). I would so much rather have a twin heavy bolter than a reaper autocannon on the defiler by the way.


Well, I have good news, you can?

I still prefer Scourge+twin las on mine, but you can take a TL HB if you want, it's the cheapest defiler config.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
 
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