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My local GW hasn't had open copies of codex's since 7th ed came out. The one time the manager unwrapped a codex so a customer could read it before he bought it, the customer read through the codex then bought it elsewhere.

 Rolsheen wrote:
My local GW hasn't had open copies of codex's since 7th ed came out. The one time the manager unwrapped a codex so a customer could read it before he bought it, the customer read through the codex then bought it elsewhere.

That's your store manager then not GW's fault.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Geez. Someone better tell the AI companies to stop building robots then.

"Muh Robutts" hasn't been a relevant hope since they started talking about it in the 1960's. Get a job.

You're very out of the loop, huh?

Anyway...someone kill this thread...

Well i do apologize to dakkadakka and their staff for my facetiousness. Forums such as this live and die by how many come on and take part in discussion. I don't apologize to those I directed it towards. Those who claimed they don't have time because of their family to come online and use Google or even come on here and ask the community about the product they are considering for purchase YET they have the time to leave all that to head to the store and read books for free as well as have time to come on here, make a thread like this, and keep tabs on it to continue responding. Some serious time management failures are occurring. Scapegoating the family for this gross mismanagement is also ridiculously dishonest and rather concerning, my sympathies to the family.

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If you have nothing on topic or useful to post then don't post.

Personally, I feel a better alternative to shrinkwrapping them would be to have books behind the counter of the store, or in some form of cabinet. Maybe then have a store copy for if anyone wants to take a look at any stats?
I have no issue with not being able to read the codex, that's fine - it's just that the plastic seems unnecessary when they could just be out of reach

If you tried keeping the books behind the counter of my store then the manager would need to live in a single spot.

 Stormonu wrote:
It’s a stupid, pendatic middle finger thrust at their customer base.

Welcome to Holy Terra in M3, where every single penny must be sucked out of every consumer at relativistic speed and with gravitational force lest the universe collapse. No free previews for you.

Also it's spelled "pedantic".

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Surely it isn't the fluff tipping you over into a purchase.

Indeed. Heaven forfend that someone should take an interest in the noncompetetive plastic soldiers game because they enjoy aspects of the fictional universe.

most independent stores and all GWs should have an open promotional copy for customers to look through. However they don't let you open the books for the same reason they don't let you open the kits, they aren't going to be able to sell any stock that has been damaged or has parts missing. I'd much rather have the shrink wrap and get a pristine, untouched book (although it would be nice if they swapped it for biodegradable plastic) than run the very real possibility that I'm buying a book that's been torn, smudged or is covered in oily fingerprints. Maybe you should consider acting less entitled.

 whispered_war wrote:
Personally, I feel a better alternative to shrinkwrapping them would be to have books behind the counter of the store, or in some form of cabinet. Maybe then have a store copy for if anyone wants to take a look at any stats?
I have no issue with not being able to read the codex, that's fine - it's just that the plastic seems unnecessary when they could just be out of reach

Ever been to a GW shop? Most of them do have store copies, specifically for people to read before they buy.

They're not for you to be able to "look at any stats" outside of a cursory flipthrough or play a demo game with though.

It's quite amazing how this thread has divided the community.

Did Horus turn on the Emperor because the vengeful Spirit ran out of shrinkwrap?

If you think this is bad, throw up a topic asking if you think people should be mandated to rebase their models everytime GW switches base size.

After getting stiffed on the Codex Grey Knights copy paste edition I acquire them online and if there not complete bollocks I buy them after.

I don't mind the books being wrapped up, but I think GW Shops should have a copy available to thumb through. It doesn't need to be available as a reference for games, but we shouldn't have to rely solely on pirated documents/rumors to make an educated purchase... Especially when you consider the total cost of the hobby. And I am not someone who feels entitled to anything, this just seems like a smart business decision for the hobby.

While traveling (out of country) I went to a GW Shop that had opened Codexes available. I had already planned on starting up another Army at the time and I thought it was nice, as I had been away from the game for a few months at the time. Spent $90ish on some models and went on my way. I've been to five or so shops and this was the only one that operated like that.

I think 40k is already hard enough to get into as is (for someone just walking into a store) and anything that makes it more accessible is a win. I have opened a store copy a few times prior to buying models along with the book, but that was after asking. I would have bought the book either way since I already did some research, however I am sure not every shopper thinks that way.

I'm gonna try and make it a point to find books that aren't shrink-wrapped, maybe snap some pictures of what I see.

Because yesterday morning, the owner of the FLGS I part-time at on weekends... called me to let me know one of our regulars owed us money because he decided he wanted to open up a Codex and take it with him to 'deploy the Tau' in the bathroom. And would have gotten away with it, had he not left it in there. On the floor.

I mean, I hate buying Graphic Novels at the bookstore because none of them are wrapped, and I've opened them up later to find pubes and boogers and all kinds of stuff.

I’ve never been in a GW or FLGS where even if the store didn’t have books for looking through, someone playing there has a copy they’d let you look at.

Is this a serious complaint? My god people on DakkaDakka will find fething anything to complain about.

I'm willing to bet that it's more to do with damaged stock than any real level of stingyness. While I would stay complaining about it would be valid like ten years ago but there is enough resources and forums now for people to get any info on an army they need.

Damn, in comparison to some, I abuse the hell out of these books. I gave up on keeping anything Mint through regular travel, and low resale value regardless of condition. But I'm also the kind of guy who folds pages in a novel to bookmark them.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
But I'm also the kind of guy who folds pages in a novel to bookmark them.

Heresy!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Ever been to a GW shop? Most of them do have store copies, specifically for people to read before they buy.

No, never set foot in a store, whole concept is foreign to me *sarcasm* no GW store I've ever been to has had any store copies that I've ever seen, even Warhammer World, which is my nearest one. I could have just never seen them though, so I may be wrong

 whispered_war wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Ever been to a GW shop? Most of them do have store copies, specifically for people to read before they buy.

No, never set foot in a store, whole concept is foreign to me *sarcasm* no GW store I've ever been to has had any store copies that I've ever seen, even Warhammer World, which is my nearest one. I could have just never seen them though, so I may be wrong

My store used to have a store copy of every book for people to use to check rules or to have a quick look. Sadly they stopped doing it because lots of people "forgot they were the store copy and took them home". Funny considering it clearly said 'Games Workshop store copy' on the front...

I love the feel and smell of a freshly unwrapped codex.

craftworld_uk wrote:
I love the feel and smell of a freshly unwrapped codex.

Honestly, that smell of any board game when you first open it. Mmmm...

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Geez. Someone better tell the AI companies to stop building robots then.

"Muh Robutts" hasn't been a relevant hope since they started talking about it in the 1960's. Get a job.

Anyway...someone kill this thread...

Okay.
How will we know if the new Sisters codex will have artwork displaying boob plate armour if its shrink wrapped? I don't want to buy a book and contribute money towards the production of such sexist materials as boob plate and combat heels.

 Sim-Life wrote:
Okay.
How will we know if the new Sisters codex will have artwork displaying boob plate armour if its shrink wrapped? I don't want to buy a book and contribute money towards the production of such sexist materials as boob plate and combat heels.

Considering that I've had quite a bit of experience with the people who complain about it, your answer is "They are going to complain and cry no matter what, just make them bare-breasted and enjoy the shrieking".

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

craftworld_uk wrote:
I love the feel and smell of a freshly unwrapped codex.

Honestly, that smell of any board game when you first open it. Mmmm...

I love the sound of the spine creaking when you open a rulebook for the first time.

Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
Okay.
How will we know if the new Sisters codex will have artwork displaying boob plate armour if its shrink wrapped? I don't want to buy a book and contribute money towards the production of such sexist materials as boob plate and combat heels.

Considering that I've had quite a bit of experience with the people who complain about it, your answer is "They are going to complain and cry no matter what, just make them bare-breasted and enjoy the shrieking".

Careful. You'll cut yourself on that edge.

 EnTyme wrote:

Careful. You'll cut yourself on that edge.

I'm about as edgy as a bowling ball, and far less fun to stick your fingers into. But I am usually in a gutter, so there's that.

And if you think those individuals aren't going to cry and piss and moan... well, keep in mind that Dakkadakka is about 50% crying and pissing and moaning from manchildren as it is, it's practically part of the culture.

 EnTyme wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

craftworld_uk wrote:
I love the feel and smell of a freshly unwrapped codex.

Honestly, that smell of any board game when you first open it. Mmmm...

I love the sound of the spine creaking when you open a rulebook for the first time.

Ohhhhh yes!