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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/20 17:06:27
Subject: Custodes shield captain on jetbike?
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Unteroffizier
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I think the easiest fix is still removal of the Supreme Command detachment. It's the best fix that doesn't hurt pure Custodes players.
If Custodes had jump pack HQs or less than 400 pt transports or cheap HQs, it wouldn't be terrible to increase the price of jetbike captains. But they're already worse, point for point, than regular jetbikes, and Custodes suffers from lack of any other decent HQ options. The other HQ options aren't bad because the jetbike captain isn't much more expensive, they're bad because they are far too expensive for what they provide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/20 17:41:34
Subject: Re:Custodes shield captain on jetbike?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jetbikes, and Jetbike Captains simply offer everything this army looks for in a tidy little package. Its got more Dakka, faster, tougher and arguably better close combat than every other unit in the codex. It doesn't need to rely on deep striking (nerfed anyway) or transports (Way too expensive) to get where they need to be. So all other choices remain obsolete when you can get it all in one for cheaper. Until the other problems are rectified, there is no other competitive choice unless you are playing for fun. Simple as that.
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/20 17:51:50
Subject: Re:Custodes shield captain on jetbike?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Brutus_Apex wrote:Jetbikes, and Jetbike Captains simply offer everything this army looks for in a tidy little package. Its got more Dakka, faster, tougher and arguably better close combat than every other unit in the codex. It doesn't need to rely on deep striking (nerfed anyway) or transports (Way too expensive) to get where they need to be. So all other choices remain obsolete when you can get it all in one for cheaper. Until the other problems are rectified, there is no other competitive choice unless you are playing for fun. Simple as that.
Yes, which is terrible internal balance. The other stuff needs to be cheaper and/or the jetbikes more expensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/20 18:21:51
Subject: Re:Custodes shield captain on jetbike?
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Damsel of the Lady
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Crimson wrote: Brutus_Apex wrote:Jetbikes, and Jetbike Captains simply offer everything this army looks for in a tidy little package. Its got more Dakka, faster, tougher and arguably better close combat than every other unit in the codex. It doesn't need to rely on deep striking (nerfed anyway) or transports (Way too expensive) to get where they need to be. So all other choices remain obsolete when you can get it all in one for cheaper. Until the other problems are rectified, there is no other competitive choice unless you are playing for fun. Simple as that.
Yes, which is terrible internal balance. The other stuff needs to be cheaper and/or the jetbikes more expensive.
You can also just have the other units offer something else. The Caladius Grav-Tank and Telemon Dreadnought are both getting interest and usage even in their beta forms. That's because they do something the other units in the Codex don't.
An example suggestion we mostly agreed on in the Tactica thread were increasing the base invulnerable save of Allarus to 4++ from 5++. You could also give Wardens a 5++ (thus making them better Smite and multi-damage tankers than other Custodes). No point changes required.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/20 19:05:30
Subject: Re:Custodes shield captain on jetbike?
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Unteroffizier
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Crimson wrote: Brutus_Apex wrote:Jetbikes, and Jetbike Captains simply offer everything this army looks for in a tidy little package. Its got more Dakka, faster, tougher and arguably better close combat than every other unit in the codex. It doesn't need to rely on deep striking (nerfed anyway) or transports (Way too expensive) to get where they need to be. So all other choices remain obsolete when you can get it all in one for cheaper. Until the other problems are rectified, there is no other competitive choice unless you are playing for fun. Simple as that.
Yes, which is terrible internal balance. The other stuff needs to be cheaper and/or the jetbikes more expensive.
Except making jetbikes more expensive just makes Custodes 100% sub-par.
I'd rather remove astra militarum from the meta than custodes.
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