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I have been using secondary objectives for quite some time so I'm behind something like this.

Of interesting note: they removed the random element and now you pick what you want your objective to be.

I do think some of them could use a re-work but they seem reasonable overall. The one where you need to control more objectives than the opponent in particular seems redundant since that is the point of so many scenarios anyways.

I like the one which involves your best hero getting killed.

A few seem like automatic points for certain factions. I would imagine if I was a TO trying to use these in my tournament, I'd have to limit a couple just to keep things fair.

Looking at them I'd tend to agree. It seems some are just too easy.

But I think thats by design as well since that follows the AOS design ethos.

Does anyone have any tips for packaging prosecutors so that their wings don't get bent?

 GillyFars wrote:
Does anyone have any tips for packaging prosecutors so that their wings don't get bent?

I sprung for the battlefoam. It does a fairly decent job of protecting the 3 prosecutors I wound up keeping.
Honestly, the design is so fragile that it's hard to keep the wings from loosing quills and bits even with custom-made foam.

I hate prosecutors and the new jump pack primaris for their flimsy construction.
Cool concept for a display piece but craptastic design for game pieces.

Goblins are likely the next army to be given more care. Would anyone want to make a guess what to expect, either in the form of mechanics or new models?

Mushroom based terrain piece.

When it comes to some of the super fragile new flying units I think GW is showing off just a bit too much for their own good - Khinari are another that loook fantastic but darn they wobble even if you just look at them funny!

I think for such fragile models the best approach if foam isn't working is to use foam AND magnets. a metal plate underneath and then a magnet in the base to secure the model and then a foam insert/walls glued down to the metal sheet to protect the extremities during transport. That way the magnet keeps the model mostly static and the foam helps absorb any bumps blows and bounces - plus it stops the models impacting each other and dangling/damaging each other that way.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Mushroom based terrain piece.

I wouldn't be mad if the Totem from Battle for Skull Pass was given new life and Herdstone/Gnarlmaw-esque type rules. I have 2 or 3.

Looking forward to what, if any, Endless Spells they get. Love the O&G spell animations in Warhammer: Total War.

Oh man I forgot about that little thing! It was nifty.

I think plastic squig hoppers (dual build with a different equipment option) and herds is a given. Also basically printing money.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Oh man I forgot about that little thing! It was nifty.

I think plastic squig hoppers (dual build with a different equipment option) and herds is a given. Also basically printing money.

I've been waiting for plastic squigs herds/hoppers for nearly a decade now (my first army was a Skull Pass-based NG force). I just bought Zarbag's Gits a few weeks ago (my first purchase from GW in probably ~6 years) - and if they continue the trend of not screwing up Night Goblins with some dumb AOS design twist I'd be all over plastic squig units. Add in some sort of Night Goblin artillery and I'd be a very happy camper and could finally get back to work on my first army!

Thing is Ngobs have always been unique and over-the-top, which is what people love about them, so I do not think there is anything to worry about; they fit the AoS design aesthetic perfectly already.

Also they technically have artillery from FW...

 Overread wrote:
When it comes to some of the super fragile new flying units I think GW is showing off just a bit too much for their own good - Khinari are another that loook fantastic but darn they wobble even if you just look at them funny!

I think for such fragile models the best approach if foam isn't working is to use foam AND magnets. a metal plate underneath and then a magnet in the base to secure the model and then a foam insert/walls glued down to the metal sheet to protect the extremities during transport. That way the magnet keeps the model mostly static and the foam helps absorb any bumps blows and bounces - plus it stops the models impacting each other and dangling/damaging each other that way.

Just magnets is enough, and much better than using foam for virtually everything. The only time I would recommend foam are the giant + tall flying models that use long/thin pieces to connect to the base. While magnets will prevent any movement during transport, those models might literally snap at the base connection as a result of being unable to move. I would use foam for models like Arkhan, and magnets for everything else. While stuff like Khinari are flying + thin connectors, they generally just don't have enough mass to snap themselves off a base when using magnets.

P.S. Don't use too many magnets, overdoing it will just result in you pulling models off the base as you try to remove them.

I’m excitedly waiting to see what they do with the Moonclan too. I’m guessing that there will be a new terrain peice and endless spells at least. But I’m really hoping that the old metal squigs and characters get replaced. The Moonclan have the potential to be some of the maddest models yet, and that’s not being realised with those ancient metals. At least the plastic rank and file troops are holding up nicely. And Nightvault shows what they’re capable of. I love the new squigs, and the armoured ‘dog handler’ look of the squig herder too.

I’m not gonna get kicked to a different thread for asking painting questions am I?

 GillyFars wrote:
I’m not gonna get kicked to a different thread for asking painting questions am I?

Possibly not, but then again if its "how can I paint this" then you might find you get more and better replies in your own thread than in a general thread which can run off the rails very fast into a totally separate subject.

Thanks, just wanted to make sure

I’m super new to aos and I was just wondering about commission painting
This might be a stupid question but how likely is it that a highly skilled artist would be able to paint an army for me to the quality of pieces seen on the web store?

There are loads of skilled art firms and people out there, somebetter than the GW webstore displays. Best thing would be to start your own thread to ask around for good names of such people. You might also want to note what state you're in in the USA (saves on shipping if you're not sending it halfway across the USA)

Thanks a ton! Off to the search I go

Something I've noticed with the 2nd edition battletome releases is a general improvement in fluff quality and quantity. They are tossing in extra details beyond what is strictly related to the battlefield (like how a blightking becomes a pusgoyle, for example) and I love it. The recent gloomspite battletome has little snippets of different fungi and their uses scattered around, which is great. Any interesting notes anyone has picked up?

Something I noted that was heavily hinted in the Stormcast battletome and all but explicitly confirmed by the Soul Wars novel is that Balthazar Gelt is a Lord-Arcanum now. Also from Soul Wars we have that souls which were undead can be made into Stormcast, and that 'Deathcast Eternals' are something Nagash can make.

I think now that AoS is a bit stronger as a setting and GW has started to put some limits, maps, times and structure to it its let the creative people be a bit more free to work with it.

One issue with a "totally anything its all infinite" setting is that writers get totally lost and thus avoid writing anything because its too easy to heavily conflict with another. With a more s tructured setting its much easier to get everyone on board and then you can get all those little tidbits of story and lore established.

Totally agree. All the detail and structure in the core rulebook did wonders for the setting I think.

Yep, the next thing I hope they start to do is slow down the advance of years and establish a proper time line. Easing off the fast growth and chagne of the start of the Era with a slower period so that we can see kingdoms and empires grow; see characters (esp mortal ones) establish themselves and such. Get a sense of gravity of the setting and how things change over time.

That leaves GW and the writers a nice few hundred years post Realmgate Wars to do all kinds of random things without any timeline; and then a solid timeline that starts to let things gain a sense of place and importance. Right now in some stories its hard to get a feel for how important a battle or a city or a setting is because we've no real place in time and space to place them in the setting. We've no idea if skaven taking a city is a big event, a small part of a greater war; an oddity; a huge defeat or what.

I view the first year or so of the game as only semi-canon. The Realmgate Wars and Godbeasts campaign are like a history book you would find in a library in Hammerhal. Some of it is accurate, some is exaggerated, and some is outright false (and I hope they leave it ambiguous as to which is which). Those are the stories the civilized cultures tell of how Sigmar retook the Mortal Realms. To me, the timeline of the game really started with the Season of War and the founding of the Free Cities.

The lore etc is something I am ok with. I liked the art in the goblin book. I thought it was pretty evocative. But I am a fan of the 80s heavy metal vibe so that speaks to me.

My hope is for a slaves to darkness book that is not a wet noodle so that I can play a force that I enjoy without getting my face rubbed in pooh because I chose the wrong army to like, as well as for the design team to really clean up the more severe balance issues and not introduce any new ones.

Particularly issues that were very easy to spot a few seconds after opening a certain new stormcast book...

folks, help me clarify something here about skirmish.

with the new rules in WD of januar, it gives you the way to calculate the renown.
does this mean that the old model limitations is gone and i can use any model aslong as it has a point cost profile?

There aren't any model restrictions now. If it fits under the points limit, it's legal.

Yup, one of the things I really like about those rules.

Not super-new, there is a fan-addition to the original skirmish rules on the Grand Alliance forums called Forgotten Heroes that had every AoS model that was 30 renown (the old version of renown) or less in one big army list document, including things like Gyrocoptors, etc.