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The claw has rear mounted blades, it looks more like a lightning claw than a fist maybe?
   
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I would like to point out that the gauntlet is left handed, the normal one is right. Perhaps we get a dual gaunlet version? That sounds saucey.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
The claw has rear mounted blades, it looks more like a lightning claw than a fist maybe?


could be, I assumed the claws where just for deco but you could be right it could be something new.

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My guess is they will make that gun op. Because they want to drive sales and there is nothing in the existing range of knights that have that. It will be like the chain cannon of chaos. Its so good you have to get it if you play chaos knights, but if you want it, you have to buy the new kit. (This is just cold deliberate marketing strategy. )

And yeah, the talon fist looks different from just the usual knight one. Maybe it will be a horde killer. Gives 4 or 5 attacks per attack in place of a stomp attack and with exploding 6 attacks, and with reroll wounds. So if you use it, you will absolutely chew through infantry. (I am just speculating here.) hehe.

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The leg joints make no sense, with the way weight is distributed, because of its huge upper body. It would be falling over, if its guns have any push back. And definitly it would fall down if it got hit.
   
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Eldenfirefly wrote:
Its 40k, Rule of Cool trumps logic.


this I mean chainswords don't make a whole lot of sense eaither

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They do when they're that size!

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 Brother Castor wrote:
They do when they're that size!


A pillow that size would crush a building

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Or you can just keep buying chaos everything, and not play them. Just sit alone in your room for years, painting and detailing, and detailing some more. Then keep doing that for years until you own upwards of 10000 points of chaos. Keep shining their swords and sharpening their knives. Then some day, some wonderful day, when a new book comes out that will realize your armies' potential, come out from hiding. Everyone will have thought you had left warhammer 40k for good, but no, you had been training, preparing, and brooding for this moment. Return with such vengeance and hatred that you will not hold back, and you will destroy everything in your path. Like a true chaos crusade, wait for the right moment, then burst forth from the Eye of Terror and unleash your pain on the whole universe. And when they cry and complain that you are OP and that it's not fair. Reassure them that it's true. It isn't fair, but it's what they DESERVE. All of them, each and every one of them deserve to be obliterated into oblivion. And if they ask you to play with a fluffy army, tell them you will do so. But on game day bring the meanest nastiest, ugliest army you can. Give them no opportunity for victory, give them no opportunity for enjoyment. Your only goal is to inflict as much pain and suffering as possible. And when they cry, and they will cry, laugh at them, drink their salty tears, and bath in their sweet, sweet blood.

 
   
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Interesting.

The Chaos Knight a standard Knight body with the legs pulled back, better faces, more exposed pipes, more spikes and variant guns.

Perhaps it will grow on me but it feels like GW missed the mark. Thinking about the FW Chaos Knight and how the carapace was covered with folds, cracks, etc. I really like the model, but the hull was so distinctive I could never see myself with more than one. That diminish the impact.

The pictures of the GW Chaos Knights make me think they have a similar problem. One of them will certainly look impressive, two will look uniform. Just swapping the guns and the face is not enough to achieve full Chaos.

Reserving judgement until I see the Codex. My initial impressions is that the new model will require conversions and it may be better to start with a standard Imperial Knight body.

   
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Ayuh, the FW Chaos Knight is entirely too generic, too Undivided and too complex to significantly change.

I'd much rather have a relatively blank slate to corrupt as I see fit, too.

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The big gun looks like a Turbo Laser to me.

All the detail on the kits are fantastic! One of the issues I had with the Imperial Knights were the big, blank areas on the carapace, shoulders and lower legs. If you are an artist and can freehand well, then it's like a huge blank canvas. If you can barely paint "between the lines" like me, those areas are an eye sore, and you end up relying on transfers/decals. I'm a bit disappointed that the Armigers and Castelen are just conversions. You can always raid the bits box and make the Armigers models for Chaos. Will be a little harder on the Castelen due to it's size.

Chaos has finally found my weak spot: giant stompy killer robots.

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Noticed a downside: no carapace weapons (missile pods and Icarus array)

Everything else looks awesome.
   
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I'm really surprised that two new models (possibly just a single kit) has turned so many people on to Renegade Knights. We've had the Index and Forge World kit for ages now...

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I'm kinda hoping for some ind of rail cannon type gun or a volcano lance.
   
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 Brother Castor wrote:
I'm really surprised that two new models (possibly just a single kit) has turned so many people on to Renegade Knights. We've had the Index and Forge World kit for ages now...


The current kits just always felt too tacked on for me. Now they have something that really fits the aesthetic as well as full traits, relics, and tactics? Yes please.

Downside? That kit is going to be $175+

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BomBomHotdog wrote:
Noticed a downside: no carapace weapons (missile pods and Icarus array)

Everything else looks awesome.


The mounting point is still there so you can always pop a spare weapon in there, assuming they have the option.
   
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Man those legs are awesome. I hope they’re poseable!
   
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Perhaps it will grow on me but it feels like GW missed the mark. Thinking about the FW Chaos Knight and how the carapace was covered with folds, cracks, etc. I really like the model, but the hull was so distinctive I could never see myself with more than one. That diminish the impact.

The pictures of the GW Chaos Knights make me think they have a similar problem. One of them will certainly look impressive, two will look uniform. Just swapping the guns and the face is not enough to achieve full Chaos.


I'm probably going to buy 2 FW Chaos Knights, and 2 Renegade knights and kit bash them together for maximum differentiation.

The new renegade knights look so awesome.

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 Brother Castor wrote:
I'm really surprised that two new models (possibly just a single kit) has turned so many people on to Renegade Knights. We've had the Index and Forge World kit for ages now...


My current concern is that I think RK already get access to almost everything from the IK book (in terms of chassis and guns - I think the Perceptor is the exception?), and now they're getting two more Knights of their own as well?

And I can already hear the gnashing of teeth if the RK relics/traits/strats aren't on par with the IK ones...

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 Dysartes wrote:
 Brother Castor wrote:
I'm really surprised that two new models (possibly just a single kit) has turned so many people on to Renegade Knights. We've had the Index and Forge World kit for ages now...


My current concern is that I think RK already get access to almost everything from the IK book (in terms of chassis and guns - I think the Perceptor is the exception?), and now they're getting two more Knights of their own as well?

And I can already hear the gnashing of teeth if the RK relics/traits/strats aren't on par with the IK ones...

Can you imagine the amount of Knights are OP complaining that will come about if Choas knights are stronger, which is thats a volcano lance is probably going to be the case, also if they get demonic buffs. There will be salt for millennia, about the all knights being OP and must NERF.
   
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The only reason I'll be buying the codex is because it will invalidate the index I already have. I was already fully invested in Renegade Knights before all this dropped. Mind you, more rules and fluff is always nice too, and the hardback codexes are very nice books.

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 Brother Castor wrote:
The only reason I'll be buying the codex is because it will invalidate the index I already have. I was already fully invested in Renegade Knights before all this dropped. Mind you, more rules and fluff is always nice too, and the hardback codexes are very nice books.

Don't get me wrong I'm happy that our traitors brothers and sisters now have rules, so that we can defeat you on the field to restore honour lost when you were foolish enough to fall for the arch traitors lies and deceit.

But you just know those less honourable forces will be complaining.
   
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Ice_can wrote:
 Brother Castor wrote:
The only reason I'll be buying the codex is because it will invalidate the index I already have. I was already fully invested in Renegade Knights before all this dropped. Mind you, more rules and fluff is always nice too, and the hardback codexes are very nice books.

Don't get me wrong I'm happy that our traitors brothers and sisters now have rules, so that we can defeat you on the field to restore honour lost when you were foolish enough to fall for the arch traitors lies and deceit.

But you just know those less honourable forces will be complaining.


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I am very interested as to how soon this coming soon is.

Because on the one hand, I want to gobble up these new rules, but on the other, I won't be able to afford them in time by any stretch of the imagination

I'm hoping these are July/August/September rather than June or before that, give us a chance

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I've got a GT lined up end of June, I'd like to try the new rules there and a couple RTT's before the Gencon tournament.
   
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Ice_can wrote:

Can you imagine the amount of Knights are OP complaining that will come about if Choas knights are stronger, which is thats a volcano lance is probably going to be the case, also if they get demonic buffs. There will be salt for millennia, about the all knights being OP and must NERF.


They'll probably just be analogues of imperials. Tzeentch knights get 4++, Khorne for +1A, etc. Some way to summon daemons through a stratagem and other evil-y versions of stuff.

There's a good chance that lance won't be on a Crusader type so with just one big gun it's less scary.

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 chimeara wrote:
I would like to point out that the gauntlet is left handed, the normal one is right. Perhaps we get a dual gaunlet version? That sounds saucey.


My personal feeling is that to pad out the Codex the current single datasheets for each Knight body will get split up by weapon loadout in a similar way to the Loyalists. So most likely no double gauntlet, or double whatever the new gun is.

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In the new Codex, the biggest thing I'll be looking for is synergy with Chaos forces.

Most of the Renegade Knight models I've seen in people's armies are crafted to look like Chaos Legions. It would be a shame if players cannot build on that somehow, or if we were locked into a set of Traitor Houses.

I realize it's unrealistic to expect all of the following, but I'd be disappointed to find none of them present.

- Legion Traits
- Mark of Chaos
- Daemon Keyword
- Psychic Powers
- Freeblade-style qualities and burdens

In addition, Renegades should have a distinct flavor. Given the low model count, I'd hate the tactics to be a carbon copy of what the Imperials have. I'd love to see some combination of the following:

- A FNP ability
- An "always strike first" ability
- A Warptime ability
- A Deep Strike Stratagem

   
 
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