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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think the best chances of survival is on an agri world. Because apparently those are basically feudal worlds, where you spend most of your time farming, and doesn't have the same problem as hive worlds. Surviving a year there should be relatively easy. Unless a bunch of cultists, orks, Dark Eldar or nids suddenly have the urge to eat corn.
Or unless the village you're staying in just happens to be over a necron tomb.


Agri-worlds have low population and can be anything from stereotypical farming worlds to ocean worlds where they harvest seafood, to weirder ones. There is one where the food is swarms of insects that are processed to make an edible ration paste.

The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.
   
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Iracundus wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think the best chances of survival is on an agri world. Because apparently those are basically feudal worlds, where you spend most of your time farming, and doesn't have the same problem as hive worlds. Surviving a year there should be relatively easy. Unless a bunch of cultists, orks, Dark Eldar or nids suddenly have the urge to eat corn.
Or unless the village you're staying in just happens to be over a necron tomb.


Agri-worlds have low population and can be anything from stereotypical farming worlds to ocean worlds where they harvest seafood, to weirder ones. There is one where the food is swarms of insects that are processed to make an edible ration paste.

The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Still better than getting shanked by a ganger in some hive, or get beaten by Arbites for breaking curfew, or accidentally touching some goop that mutates me and results in me getting both shanked by gangers and beaten by arbites for being a mutant.

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It may be important to note that, on an Agri world, you'd probably be looking at 100+ hours of backbreaking labor a week (probably true of most worlds, to be fair). Between the lack of safety precautions and the actual toll on your body, it certainly wouldn't be a guarantee that you'd make it to the year's end. And that's aside from whether the psychological strain wouldn't just drive you to suicide.
   
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Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.

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'Straya... Mate.

Believing that you would survive even a day just dropping in to the 40k universe is naive. We have it so easy in our current lives compared to pretty much any world in the Imperium, and most of us still struggle day to day!
For humans, generally its strong faith in the Emperor that gets them through the day in the 40k universe, which we don't have. If you were to survive for a whole year it would be pure luck. So no, its not worth it.

 
   
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The last time I was confronted with Latin was back in school. So nobody would understand me which would suck a lot.

But far more dangerous would be common diseases. So either the Imperial citizens will bite the dust because of my flu or it would be the other way around.

Now imagine if I would be responsible of causing an epidemic in a hive because of this. Nurgle himself would show interest in this fantastic disease of mine and his minions will show up to offer me one of his many "gifts" as a reward.

Meanwhile the Imperium will deem this as a terrorist attack and send the Arbites to hunt me down. Nope, I guess staying home and avoiding the 40K setting is the prudent way to go.
   
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Probably. Most Imperial worlds barely see war or anything REALLY horrible so you just keep your head down and stay out of trouble and you'd be fine.

 
   
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With no money, food, language, identity or resistance to disease.

Sounds like a blast.

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 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.

Unless there are caveats included in this “deal”, appearing on a 40K world can mean instant death due to hostile environmental conditions such as zero atmosphere or a poisonous one, lethal temperatures (either too cold or hot), or a slightly slower death by lack of food, water, or shelter. There wouldn’t even be a chance to experience any of Imperial society at all.
   
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 flandarz wrote:
It may be important to note that, on an Agri world, you'd probably be looking at 100+ hours of backbreaking labor a week (probably true of most worlds, to be fair). Between the lack of safety precautions and the actual toll on your body, it certainly wouldn't be a guarantee that you'd make it to the year's end. And that's aside from whether the psychological strain wouldn't just drive you to suicide.


So...not like medieval times then. :(
I'm pretty sure not even peasants worked that hard.

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Iracundus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.


How's the grain growing without a water-source?

How do you starve in continent-sized field full of grain?

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 flandarz wrote:
It may be important to note that, on an Agri world, you'd probably be looking at 100+ hours of backbreaking labor a week (probably true of most worlds, to be fair). Between the lack of safety precautions and the actual toll on your body, it certainly wouldn't be a guarantee that you'd make it to the year's end. And that's aside from whether the psychological strain wouldn't just drive you to suicide.


So...not like medieval times then. :(
I'm pretty sure not even peasants worked that hard.


Peasants worked less than we do and had more holidays.
   
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 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.


How's the grain growing without a water-source?

How do you starve in continent-sized field full of grain?


Well, you need to grind the grain into flour, and an oven to cook the wheat into bread. That means finding a big stone to act as the grinder and a bunch of clay to make a rudimentary oven, which may or may not work and all while you are hungry.
Now, if you land in a field full of berries, you might have an easier time. Until the farmers find you nicking their harvest, that is.


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Headlss wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 flandarz wrote:
It may be important to note that, on an Agri world, you'd probably be looking at 100+ hours of backbreaking labor a week (probably true of most worlds, to be fair). Between the lack of safety precautions and the actual toll on your body, it certainly wouldn't be a guarantee that you'd make it to the year's end. And that's aside from whether the psychological strain wouldn't just drive you to suicide.


So...not like medieval times then. :(
I'm pretty sure not even peasants worked that hard.


Peasants worked less than we do and had more holidays.


Eh, sort of.
They only worked 3 days a week, and had plenty of holidays but they worked really long hours (depending on season) and it was fairly intensive manual labor.
So in terms of hours it may not seem long, but in terms of actual physical exertion it was pretty demanding. And that's not even mentioning getting drafted into the levy during war.

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Why do you need to make bread? You're complicating matters unnecessarily. There's no more nutrition in bread than there is the flour and water you made it from. The application of heat doesn't add nutrition.

Plus, it's a field of grain. There's gonna be pests, or at an absolute minimum, insects so protein too.

EDIT - And if there are no insects, someone or something has to come by to do the pollination. Then something or someone has to harvest the field. You'd be found.

And then probably executed.

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Because eating raw grains is extremely unhealthy and will cause digestive problems?
If you don't want to make it into bread, you'll have to soak the grains for 1-3 days, toss away the water and rinse them again before eating them. Apparently that's how ancient cultures consumed grains before working out that you can mill them.

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 Excommunicatus wrote:
Why do you need to make bread? You're complicating matters unnecessarily. There's no more nutrition in bread than there is the flour and water you made it from. The application of heat doesn't add nutrition.

Plus, it's a field of grain. There's gonna be pests, or at an absolute minimum, insects so protein too.

EDIT - And if there are no insects, someone or something has to come by to do the pollination. Then something or someone has to harvest the field. You'd be found.

And then probably executed.


Raw grain is barely edible. People process food because it also makes food easier to digest and release nutrients. If you are in a field of raw grain, a few grains of wheat or whatever are not going to provide enough calories to sustain someone if they are thousands of km from the nearest human. Irrigation water is not safe to drink.

Good luck catching insects with no tools. Even the odd insect is not going to do more than delay the end. Don’t forget sun exposure as there probably is no shade around.

A person would not die immediately or maybe even for some days if they take the risk anyway and drink irrigation water, but it is not sustainable and chances are that person would die before they could reach any other human. Trying to survive and walk towards help would consume even more energy, assuming one even knows what direction to travel in.

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The choice isn't between eating raw grain or baking bread, though.

If you can grind it into flour and there's enough water to maintain a continent of grain, you can make a gross, gluey paste that will at least keep you alive. It's really not overly hard to catch insects, depending on what type. Primates 'dip' for ants with twigs, which the ants crawl over and are then licked off of by the ape. Catching a bumblebee isn't difficult.

The exposure thing is a legit. concern, which is why I haven't quibbled it.

EDIT - FWIW, you don't need an oven to make bread, though you do need some kind of container to put the dough in. IIRC, there's a camp-fire bread called bannock that is just flour and water put in a pot and left on a fire. I watched Ray Mears make some one time.

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No

You would be dead.

IF a real insanely good survivor, you would be so messed up by pollution or exposure to bad stuff you would not live long past that year.

Since a parameter was a "random" world, I would of course end up on a "death-world" where I would die in minutes if not seconds.

A secondary concern is I would not be adapted to that world (gravity, day-night cycle if there is one, ambient radiation, UV index).

Then there is this low/high gothic stuff, my latin sucks assuming that is the general form of it.

THEN I would of course run afoul of some social norm that would get me reported as a possible covert mutant or heretic.

Heck, just having a full head of hair would be enough to have something bad happen.

Since I would not be integrated into society, I would need to scavenge what tools I would need and inevitably I would use something contrary to the STC intended use and be killed out of hand by any member of the Mechanicus.

Then there will be some inevitable gang, thug, cultist, alien, mutant or just a native life form that would end me right there if not some Xenos invasion or the annual press gangs round me up to "volunteer" for the IG/AM to be used like bathroom tissue..

Have any idea what kind of diseases they have floating around? They had centuries to mutate into something my poor immune system would just curl up a and die. This is like the Europeans meeting the natives on an exponential scale.

ALL THIS while I would be competing with vastly better equipped destitute and desperate citizens of the Imperium.

I think your odds would be less than 1% even if you had a high level Mechanicus priest try to prepare you for a month as an interesting experiment. Would be easier to extract your brain and place in a mechanized jar.

Yeah... thought wayyyyyy too much on that one.


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Now that I think of it, I think one's best chances of survival is to meet Trazyn. If you are very lucky, he'll just allow you to hang out in his museum whilst he studies and quizzes a human from the 21st century.
Whether or not he'll get bored and try to dissect you before the year is up is another matter entirely.

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 Excommunicatus wrote:
The choice isn't between eating raw grain or baking bread, though.

If you can grind it into flour and there's enough water to maintain a continent of grain, you can make a gross, gluey paste that will at least keep you alive. It's really not overly hard to catch insects, depending on what type. Primates 'dip' for ants with twigs, which the ants crawl over and are then licked off of by the ape. Catching a bumblebee isn't difficult.

The exposure thing is a legit. concern, which is why I haven't quibbled it.


Grinding grain by hand is time consuming back breaking work (consuming more energy) and you have to gather the grain in the first place.

Again eating a few random insects is not going to provide enough nutrition to sustain an adult human.

Every moment spent eking a few calories is another moment not spent moving towards habitation.

All those contestants on reality survival shows shed significant amounts of weight because their general caloric intake from their scrounging is not sufficient to match their needs. And that is with generally some minimum level of help like replenishing salt and electrolytes lost from sweat, provided behind the scenes for safety reasons.

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I mean, we're talking about being dumped in the middle of thousands of miles of featureless grainfield, I had rather thought it was a given that I'm not saying you could live well.

I'm not even saying you would definitely survive. I'm just saying it's possible. Maybe this particular planet has super-evolved foot-long weevils.

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 flandarz wrote:
Headlss wrote:
Most people in Victoria England and during the spanish inquisition, and in 40k live. They all know it sucks and some of them say so, many of them have 30 cents and a pack of cigarettes in their pocket but they rarely get murdered for them. If they can live through it you can too.


Actually, a significant number of people during those times didn't live. Sure, if you made it to puberty, you had a solid chance to becoming an old man, but a lot of folks died before then from things like disease, overwork, and violence. And I'd wager that the average modern human transplanted to the 40k universe wouldn't have the immune system, physical fitness, or knowledge of which neighborhoods that an adult who grew up there would. You'd essentially be an infant, so good luck.


Yeah a lot more people died then rather than now, but more of them lived.

As for immune system that was covered in my 'no cheeti g by the choas gods' post.
Physical fitness you would practically be a space Marine to people who grew up on a hive world.
Knoledge of neighbourhoods, thats kind of like the immune system. If your survival depends of specific knoledges or skills or anti bodies that you don't have then you are obviously doomed.
   
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 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.


How's the grain growing without a water-source?

How do you starve in continent-sized field full of grain?


If it's not harvest season, the grain would be largely inedible. Assuming it's reached the point where the grain has formed.
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For those of you saying no one would understand you, the Mechanicus uses English as an internal language. The locals would probably point you to the nearest tech shrine or Cog-Boy.
   
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 Mmmpi wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.


How's the grain growing without a water-source?

How do you starve in continent-sized field full of grain?


If it's not harvest season, the grain would be largely inedible. Assuming it's reached the point where the grain has formed.
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For those of you saying no one would understand you, the Mechanicus uses English as an internal language. The locals would probably point you to the nearest tech shrine or Cog-Boy.


And then swift study and lobotomization.

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 Mmmpi wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The low population could mean you appear in the middle of a continent sized wheat field with nobody around for hundreds or thousands of km.


Honestly, that sounds wonderful.


It would mean dying of exposure, thirst, starvation.


How's the grain growing without a water-source?

How do you starve in continent-sized field full of grain?


If it's not harvest season, the grain would be largely inedible. Assuming it's reached the point where the grain has formed.
--
For those of you saying no one would understand you, the Mechanicus uses English as an internal language. The locals would probably point you to the nearest tech shrine or Cog-Boy.


And then swift study and lobotomization.


Depends on what you have to offer. I mean, just a brief run down of world history might get you a year of basic sustenance and shelter.
   
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I'd be dead very quick.

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I don't know if there's loose numbers on the types of Imperial world.
Even so, it stands to reason that the sheer variety of Imperial worlds means that plenty of them should be survivable, assuming some stuff that's not stipulated by the OP, like being dropped near a human settlement (ending up on the wrong side of a world like Necromunda, Valhalla or Tallarn, exposed to the elements is a death sentence.)

Plan A would likely be to go get lost innawoods and survive for a year alone. There's lots of places in 40k where the local fauna isn't murder-beetles or venom-badgers or what have you.
Plan B would be to join up with some humble low risk (of being purged) human culture adjacent to the main Imperial society (miners, agri workers, moisture farmers etc) and ride out the year doing odd jobs.
Plan C would have you try exist in Imperial culture somehow, which carries lots of risks- you don't have any ID, address, ident codes etc. Factory work, bureaucracy, chefing at a nice bistro.
Plan D Combat. Join the PDF/Guard/Navy/Bounty hunters/Militia/Hive gang/pilgrimage and start pulling triggers for a living. Bonus points if you get sent on a warp voyage- you might get to spend your year on a spooky ship instead of fighting, while your material needs are provided for.

Garden worlds/Paradise worlds are obviously the win condition here.
Primitive worlds should be survivable and a chance to relive the glory days of European exploration/discovery. Watch out for megasaurs and so on.
Agri/Feudal worlds are probably ideal for Plan A and B, linking up with some small village and sell your services as hired help/Jacke of alle trades problem solver.
Civilised worlds wouldn't pose immediate danger and should provide plenty of sub industries to pitch in. Depending on the severity of the local government, Plan C could work fine here.
Shrine worlds are like civilised worlds with more singing and shouting and incense. Plenty of job opportunities.
Remote Outposts and Research stations could probably use someone extra to talk to/ workers.
Hive worlds range from advanced civilised worlds to polluted Necromundan hellscapes- plenty of them are fine to live in and have habitable areas outside the hives where you could go get lost. If you land on Necromunda type worlds it's probably plan B or D.
Space Stations and such are basically hives.
Deathworlds , War worlds and Penal colonies are the bullet in this Russian roulette, unless you are a living breathing 80's action hero.

What you're really hoping for is a nice quiet village in the Brittanicus cluster, or anywhere described in the Cain novels really. Rural paradises exist throughout the Imperium, rolling hills and alien cattle. Tanith (Pre novelisation) sounded like a great place to live, as does Hagia,Herodor, Voltemond, (pre-chaos invasion) Gereon.
Failing that, aim for a life of adventure surrounded by heavily armed dudes.

I'd be in if I didn't have a family here- this is absolutely a younger mans gamble.
   
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I'd say no, the risk versus reward is not there.

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