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Why are all the guns so... narrow?

Sometimes I honestly look at a page of a comic and think, how the hell did this person get hired as a professional comic artist?

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Sometimes I honestly look at a page of a comic and think, how the hell did this person get hired as a professional comic artist?

In many instances the answer is "because they can actually meet a deadline".

 Albertorius wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Sometimes I honestly look at a page of a comic and think, how the hell did this person get hired as a professional comic artist?

In many instances the answer is "because they can actually meet a deadline".

Marvel's current page rates are not high enough to command professional artists at the level you may be accustomed to if you read comics in the 80s and 90s. They are sub-living wages for a single book, meaning if the artist is even mediocre they'll be hustling through it to get on to other work, and frankly many of those they employ do not rise to the level of mediocre.

Looks like it needs a layer of grime.

This is cool. I like the art, Calgar was excellent so I'll likely pick this one up as well.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Comics are a dying media, their age is long past us. Nobody buys physical comics. Nobody talks about physical comics. Nobody really gives a gak about physical comics. Even making them more 'diverse', which has been going since forever, with making established characters into women and minorities isn't remotely saving them. And personally? Good, the entire comic industry can go die in a fire.

I buy them. And I know a lot of other people who do as well. Dude, why is it everything you comment on is dipped in rage?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Comics are a dying media, their age is long past us. Nobody buys physical comics. Nobody talks about physical comics. Nobody really gives a gak about physical comics. Even making them more 'diverse', which has been going since forever, with making established characters into women and minorities isn't remotely saving them. And personally? Good, the entire comic industry can go die in a fire.

Yeah next thing you know they'll make Iron Man and Green Lantern into black dudes!





Oh.

Wait.

That was LITERALLY 40 years ago. So unless your glory days are from before most of us were born it's a bit late to complain.

And if they were, 40 years is a bit long to hold a grudge no?

Being disingenuous? They are new characters, not re skined astablished characters and that's not new in warhammer either. (Like Hastur Sejanus.)

On the topic of the comic scans, what combi bolter is that sister holding? I don't recognize that nozzle

I think it's supposed to be a flamer. It's just really derpy looking.

 frankelee wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Sometimes I honestly look at a page of a comic and think, how the hell did this person get hired as a professional comic artist?

In many instances the answer is "because they can actually meet a deadline".

Marvel's current page rates are not high enough to command professional artists at the level you may be accustomed to if you read comics in the 80s and 90s. They are sub-living wages for a single book, meaning if the artist is even mediocre they'll be hustling through it to get on to other work, and frankly many of those they employ do not rise to the level of mediocre.

Exactly.

I'll also add into this, it looks so freaking bland and clean. That's the issue with this. Very generic and soulless. My expectations, while not to everyones' liking is a more Blanche or Goodwin style, a bit dirty and slightly chaotic. I know a comic ain't gonna replicate that exactly but give me something gritty ala TWD style.

The industry itself is weird. It's not dead or going to be, but the glory days are long gone and the people behind the scenes don't seem to know what to do with anything. An outright lazy editorial makes things worse as artist and writers seem to run amok. Meanwhile shops took a hard hit this year along with the rest of the industry. The good news is that Marvel decided to actually invest in itself (Meaning Disney got tired of idiots) and got them to change to Penguin from Diamond like DC has this past Summer, creating the hilarious situation in which Marvel employees publicly made fun of DC for switching, even going so far as making blank covers (A terrible idea) that said said something in support of Diamond. Diamond, a Maryland based company, sucks.

There's other things such as fan vs creator battles, other terrible PR, #1s and alt covers up the ass (and with diminishing returns for reboots), and many other things that don't really relate to this book.... well maybe that Calgar one given the writer for it.

First issue is out today, and at a glance it's not awful.

 frankelee wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Sometimes I honestly look at a page of a comic and think, how the hell did this person get hired as a professional comic artist?

In many instances the answer is "because they can actually meet a deadline".

Marvel's current page rates are not high enough to command professional artists at the level you may be accustomed to if you read comics in the 80s and 90s. They are sub-living wages for a single book, meaning if the artist is even mediocre they'll be hustling through it to get on to other work, and frankly many of those they employ do not rise to the level of mediocre.

I'm not sure what standard of mediocre you're running on that knocking out an issue of a comic per month at the general standard comics companies hit nowadays doesn't qualify. We aren't talking 90's Liefeld here.

beast_gts wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
It's interesting that they've decided to go with Canoness Veridyan.

She's on the cover, so not really surprising.

Yes, but why her? She's not a BL character or a special character in-game, she's just the name given to a unique sculpt (although she is the first of the new SoB if you allow resin). Is she that recognisable?

Veridyan is the single most recognizable character in all of 40k to people who don't play/read 40k stuff. We get so inundated in space marines that it's easy to forget that the 2nd edition sisters of battle codex cover and that big blanche battlefleet gothic ship are the face of 40k for a lot of people on the perimeter of the hobby.


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Togusa wrote:
This is cool. I like the art, Calgar was excellent so I'll likely pick this one up as well.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Comics are a dying media, their age is long past us. Nobody buys physical comics. Nobody talks about physical comics. Nobody really gives a gak about physical comics. Even making them more 'diverse', which has been going since forever, with making established characters into women and minorities isn't remotely saving them. And personally? Good, the entire comic industry can go die in a fire.

I buy them. And I know a lot of other people who do as well. Dude, why is it everything you comment on is dipped in rage?

I bet you a list of his most commonly viewed subreddits would probably answer that question. I mean, before they got banned/quarantined at least.

I didn’t realize anybody still read Marvel comics.

Dread Master wrote:
I didn’t realize anybody still read Marvel comics.

Yeah, I'm not sure why GW would tarnish it's image by working with Marvel's comic division, unless they're hoping it's a gateway to Disney.

Jokes on them, Disney doesn't know what a comic book is.

Goose LeChance wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
I didn’t realize anybody still read Marvel comics.

Yeah, I'm not sure why GW would tarnish it's image by working with Marvel's comic division, unless they're hoping it's a gateway to Disney.

Jokes on them, Disney doesn't know what a comic book is.

.. tarnish it's image? how would they "tarnish their image"? and marvel is still one of the biggest names in the busniess.

I enjoyed the Ephrael Stern comic, even if the art style was very Liefield-esque. That said I haven't read Marvel in a long time, not since the Brand New Day debacle. Didn't care for the art in the Calgar comic, this one looks okay I suppose.

Forgive me if it's been stated before, but the main character isn't some random Sister.

It's meant to be the sister from the infamous Blache artwork of her posing with very long legs on a pile of bones. (This was later made into a model, but sadly in finecast.)

 GaroRobe wrote:
Forgive me if it's been stated before, but the main character isn't some random Sister.

It's meant to be the sister from the infamous Blache artwork of her posing with very long legs on a pile of bones. (This was later made into a model, but sadly in finecast.)

Ahh yes the famous Long Legs Lucy.

In issue 3 marvel reveals how the real Long Legs Lucy was killed by chaos cultists and her humble squiress Short Shanks Shirly has to step out of the shadows to assume her identity, strike a pose, and save the galaxy.

She's got some long boots to fill!

ERJAK wrote:
Veridyan is the single most recognizable character in all of 40k to people who don't play/read 40k stuff.

That's a very bold statement.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

ERJAK wrote:
Veridyan is the single most recognizable character in all of 40k to people who don't play/read 40k stuff.

That's a very bold statement.

Yeah, I mean I remember when there was that great poster version that a couple gaming stores had way back when, but the idea that it's the most iconic whatever is silly. I imagine the box art for any edition appears in like a million more places in its run than that piece (which I like pretty well) ever has.

Honestly, the first issue is pretty good.

I thought the Calgar series was "Ok, but nothing special," but this one has a few little narrative hooks that have me interested.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
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The difference is the 40 year old comics actually had editors and people who could tell a story. A lot of comics now a days are just - pictures, things happens, word bubbles-. There is no coherent plot, minor spelling and syntax errors aren't caught and oh yeah the big one..... the comic creators of yesteryear weren't in the newspaper editorial sections screaming there political allegiances and demonizing anyone who disagrees with them....oh yeah they where also not telling people who don't like said political beliefs to not buy their product. Now they are wondering why a lot of said audience isn't buying their products anymore?

 FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
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The difference is the 40 year old comics actually had editors and people who could tell a story. A lot of comics now a days are just - pictures, things happens, word bubbles-. There is no coherent plot, minor spelling and syntax errors aren't caught and oh yeah the big one..... the comic creators of yesteryear weren't in the newspaper editorial sections screaming there political allegiances and demonizing anyone who disagrees with them....oh yeah they where also not telling people who don't like said political beliefs to not buy their product. Now they are wondering why a lot of said audience isn't buying their products anymore?

yeaaah comic books ain't political until recently tooooootally. ohh wait.. THEY WHERE



See that? Published in MARCH 1941, 9 months BEFORE the US entered WW2, the book effectively said "Nazi's are bad and the US should be in the war" that was a pretty strong political statement at the time

To be fair, I think the US Navy had already prosecuted some German submarines in US waters at that stage even though they weren't officially AT war.

 FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
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The difference is the 40 year old comics actually had editors and people who could tell a story. A lot of comics now a days are just - pictures, things happens, word bubbles-. There is no coherent plot, minor spelling and syntax errors aren't caught and oh yeah the big one..... the comic creators of yesteryear weren't in the newspaper editorial sections screaming there political allegiances and demonizing anyone who disagrees with them....oh yeah they where also not telling people who don't like said political beliefs to not buy their product. Now they are wondering why a lot of said audience isn't buying their products anymore?

Yeah... About that...



Also, everything is political. If you think something is not, it's usually just because the political views exposed there are the ones you hold.

Read it yesterday. Art seemed good, writing was decent, a number of red shirts got red shirted. Seemed like a decent first issue all around

Ah yes, the famously non-political, non-moralizing comics of yesteryear that live in the minds of people who apparently have problem not just with subtext but text too

And remember guys, prior to Star Trek Discovery, Star Trek wasn't liberal eaither!

 FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
the comic creators of yesteryear weren't in the newspaper editorial sections screaming there political allegiances and demonizing anyone who disagrees with them....oh yeah they where also not telling people who don't like said political beliefs to not buy their product. Now they are wondering why a lot of said audience isn't buying their products anymore?

... you're being serious?

Oh, my sweet summer child.