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And that’s me on the eighth and final episode of this season.
It’s good. Really good. Whilst not the most experienced Fallout player? This looks a s feels the part.
They’ve clearly understood what makes the game’s story and setting compelling. The world feels lived in.
It’s not short on action, violence and even gore, but keeps a distinct sense of humour about itself. None of it is overdone, not even the Easter Eggs. Shots linger just enough for “eh, eh, remember this, eh?”, without making that the entire shot.
It’s night and day with the Halo show, which was just plain old boring. Here, I care about our characters. Their motivations make sense, even if they’re not necessarily likeable in thought or deed.
Genuinely wonderful stuff. Not for kids, and some might find the humour a bit off kilter. But it worked really nicely for me, and I’ll be back for S2.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, but Pro Tip?
Skip the “coming this season” at the end of the first season. You don’t need to see that.
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Was not expecting to like it so much, but maybe because those hacks of Bethesda weren't doing the writing for once, we actually got a decent story with interesting plot points that really felt at home in the setting and damn it, a lot of this stuff should go into a future game.
Some stuff I still didn't like, such as the power armour sometimes really looking like someone in a rubber suit at times, what they did with the NCR, the cartoonishly evil Vault experiment unveiling and where the next season is going, though this last one is a personal one for me.. as it's nodding towards for me personally to one of the best games in the series, don't you dare mess this up.
I did love that the world is in places green showing that it can recover and become alive again, has that delightful dark comedy of the earlier games, we've Matt Berry, Chris Parnell, Michael Emerson (once again crippled and with a dog companion, ha!) and holy gak, is that the original 10mm pistol design from the first two games?!
Main cast was also a lot of fun and ha, the golden rule of the wasteland, they really do know their source material.
It also follows the overall formula of a Fallout game. I don’t know if it’s a repackaging of an existing plot though (again, only played Fallout 4).
The nods and winks are all there though. Not in a lingering or smashing you round the face with it whilst bellowing how clever they are. They’re…just there. Recognisable brands and symbols and stuff, scattered through the general environment. For me, reminiscent of the Easter Egg posters and graffiti in Dredd. If you know, you know and you’ll spot them, but not a single one is a plot hook to baffle the uninitiated.
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I think a big chunk? It’s, stripped back, a really simple story. And told well.
The set dressing and visual factors that made the games popular have been comfortably relied upon to work that magic again.
They’ve not mucked about with it. No reimagining. No “my head canon must now be canon” type, well, i guess, arrogance.
And a TV Series is absolutely the format for it. It wouldn’t work as a movie. And the eight episodes feel about right in individual and collective length.
Props for resisting side quests as well. For the most part. There’s the gist and feel of them, but never at the expense of the main tale.
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Enough fallout to be fallout, enough story to be great fun tv (it's not a direct plot from one of the games, but it could easily be which is a compliment both to the TV writers and the game writers)
i'd agree there were the odd moments where the effects budget or timeframe didn't quite make it, but i've seen worse in really big budget movies (and other huge budget tv) series.
it's even getting good writeups from critics
here's hoping we get more (assuming they've got an equally good story to tell)
It ended on a suitable cliff-hanger / open ending, but because of the game it is referencing in that final scene, it has some very large shoes to fill.
Saw first episode. Really amazed how well they’ve managed to pull off everything looking like Fallout. Very much in the spirit of Fallout 3 and 4 with a few scenes almost recreated.
I am unsure if somebody new to Fallout would understand as I was confused regarding what was up considering the factions introduced and the location; as well who so far hasn’t been introduced. But that is presenting a good mystery. I think they know we want to know and are teasing us rather than a lack of thought.
Spoiler:
Since they’re in California I would have thought the NCR would have a big presence. The Brotherhood have mentioned they are going to California implying they don’t operate in area because the Brotherhood is there.
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Safe to assume that the Brotherhood went after the NCR then?
Spoiler:
NCR been mentioned but they are in California. The Brotherhood are after somebody who fled an Enclave base. It’s mainly from the perspective of a vault dweller who doesn’t know what’s going on and a rookie recruit into the Brotherhood. There are a few lines that suggest the Brotherhood are moving into the area implying they don’t normally operate there. Nothing explicit mind. But yeah they didn’t have to set it in California to tell the story they have so far so it must have some tie into either the NCR or the Master. Everything else they can kind of do elsewhere.
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Not real show spoilers except for the ending scene, but may be spoilers for people who want to play games like say.. New Vegas.
Re: NCR
Spoiler:
NCR got nuked and taken out of the picture, which really pisses me off that they so easily write the NCR off like that. This is a massive faction that grew from a small farming town made up of Vault 15 survivors into a, for better or for worse, an attempt at pre-war society. This is the faction that has beaten Caesar's Legion and they get removed from the setting so easily, it really pisses me off, especially because this is canon.
Re: Brotherhood of Steel
Spoiler:
The Brotherhood we're following are the donkey-caves from the Capitol wastes and Commonwealth, if you've played F3 and F4, you know why they're such donkey-caves, it's why they have the Prydwen. The original Brotherhood has fractured and lost a lot over the years, with them being on the verge of extinction by the time New Vegas took place, having lost a massive battle against the NCR and depending on player actions, either allied with the NCR after the second battle for Hoover Dam or died out as the isolationist donkey-caves they were, because they were not nice neighbours to have around.
Re: the ending scene
Spoiler:
It is indeed New Vegas where the story is moving towards, which makes me wonder what ending of that game is made canon.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Fallout as a series is near and dear to my heart, whinge aside, I did enjoy the show a lot, even if I personally only consider Fallout, Fallout 2 and New Vegas canon. But that might be because these games have been done by the same people and neatly tied it all together while keeping the tone and style intact.
Also.. no radiant quests. Or uninspired writing from Bethesda's hacks.
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As a lover of Fallout 3 - Really really enjoyed that
Good story, good characters - nailed the style, the themes and Dark Humour of Fallout completely.
Looking forward to S2
Maybe add some of the Cthluhu Mythos elements would be fun
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You know my only complaint? Amazon dumping it all at once. I watched 6 episodes today because I wanted to come back to see what was next.
The show was absolutely good enough to do as a weekly release.
Having never played any of the games, I have no idea if what I'm watching is accurate to them or not.
But the show looks great & I've enjoyed all 5 episodes I've seen so far....
Gert wrote: You know my only complaint? Amazon dumping it all at once. I watched 6 episodes today because I wanted to come back to see what was next.
The show was absolutely good enough to do as a weekly release.
Some people will complain if a series is dropped weekly, others if it is dropped in a block - I don't really think Amazon (or any streaming platform) can really win here.
Personally, I'd prefer weekly too, but it isn't the biggest deal in the world.
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Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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Only watched one episode so far as I'm happy to take my time with it. So far so good, seems good within the game universe. Just a few minor quibbles but nothing to worry about.
Fantastic. Hilarious and completely captures the spirit of Fallout. It got me.
I loved the twist with the NCR. They set up where everyone is a monster and the reveal that they’re the good guys and there isn’t some sinister super weapon when she presses the button to turn the lights back on. I did think when the Vaults say “we’re going to build a new America” that well they’ll be disappointed to learn they got beat to the punchline. I can understand being annoyed at them turning the clock back but I think it gives them a great premise to work with in future seasons and I am entirely sold on it. I don’t think people who did that Ranger scene were people who didn’t like the faction and it’s far more pro NCR than New Vegas.
Definitely leaves the door open for something like either the reform the Minutemen situation for the NCR or an Elder Lyon’s esque thing with Maximus. They spent the time to establish that after Shady Sands went lots of them went to back to their farms with their gear. That is exactly the same as the Minutemen and with a very evil version of the Brotherhood trying to rule California; it seems set up for that.
Surprised at the Enclave misdirect. Vault Tec sort of fulfills the same role and had the same idea as the Enclave. Maybe they’re going to have a second reveal in season 2. The Enclave Scientist did know about the vaults and her father; so I am guessing that’s the case. Which could be setting up a big enclave war either against the NCR or Brotherhood.
But yeah, it’s Fallout and it is by people who love the games.
The only thing that annoyed me was Lucy not killing her Dad. I felt her holding back wasn’t right in that moment and it was a little too heavy handed to set things up for next season.
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I’m aware the games at least heavily implied Vault-Tec deliberately set off the apocalypse. But the show is completely explicit about it. Is that new lore?
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Fallout 3 shows an undetonated bomb with vault tec id on it, and in fallout 4 theres definitely some logs that suggest it. But the show is the first time they have 100% confirmed it. It was always left as an unknown as to who started the apocalypse, vault tec being responsible was just hinted at.
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