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**Snord**

Gordy2000 wrote:
If the 11th launch box really does contain Orks, I hope they don’t mess them up.

They’ll be bigger (of course), but the faces/musculature/shape matters. I’m of the old school that considers the Brian Nielsen sculpts the only true Orks. They reused them (sometime resculpted around the edges) in later kits like the storm boys (even the newer ones) and of course in Black Reach.

The latest orks (like the odd game-illegal boyz kit) just don’t look right. Too smooth, too bland, teef too small.

Bring back propa Orks!

I agree that the sculpting of the Orks since Nelson stopped doing them has been quite inconsistent. The Black Reach Nobz, for instance, fitted in perfectly with the look of the Nelsonian Boyz, but the models in the later Nobz box set were distinctly 'off'. And the krew models for the Ork buggy range look were simply terrible. I do like the Kommandos and Tankbustas though.

**ccs**

Ashiraya wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Once I’ve bought some models? They’re mine. And whether you paint them or not, once assembled they’re usable near as dammit forever. The more we use them, the more value we get from the initial investment.

Obviously the models are not being smashed. But some people are more gameplay-oriented than others. If you are someone who are, being told that your 3 Raveners or Stealth Suits are now unusable because the new box is in 5s definitely stings (to say nothing of stuff just being tossed, like the Horus Heresy rug pull at the start of 40k 10e).

Or the example given being Kill Team, where teams that are just a few years old are no longer playable because GW wants to keep the treadmill spinning.

Wich teams are you talking about? Because when I look at the GW site I see rules for all of the teams released to date for the KT24 edition.

Or are you complaining that not everything released under KT21 was included in the current edition (yet)?

**Moopy**

Two people on a red bike.

Red bike for orks and 2 people = two factions in a boxed set.

That's all I got.