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Hello

I was wondering what % of a model must be sold by GW in order for it to be mmm legit or legal or what ever it is.

Also since they sell greenstuff If you sculpt a model out of greenstuff this should be 100% sold by GW right?

sorry if this is the wrong section I was debating on painting/modeling forums and fantasy/40k rules.

There isnt a minimum percentage. 100% scratchbuilds are acceptable, however non GW stock is frowned upon.

That being said GW is far looser with regards to many of its competitors including PP, but has he rep for not allowing non-GW stock, which isnt exactly fair.

So long as you avoid illegal recasts/bootleg miniatures and your army is evidently either GW or scratchbuilt nobody is going to mind if you sneak in the odd head or weapon conversion.

OgreChubbs wrote:
Hello

I was wondering what % of a model must be sold by GW in order for it to be mmm legit or legal or what ever it is.

Also since they sell greenstuff If you sculpt a model out of greenstuff this should be 100% sold by GW right?

sorry if this is the wrong section I was debating on painting/modeling forums and fantasy/40k rules.

You probably want 40k discussions.

To your original question, it;s going to vary pretty wildly depending on your store. You should call your local FLGS and ask them because we can only speculate.

I just had this conversation at the LGW... He was telling me that GW corporate has told him "the majority of the model must be GW product"

His in-store policy is 51% of the model (not counting base and GS work) needs to be GW... so long as it *looks* mostly GW then it's good in my local store. YMMV depending on your store/gaming group, etc.

Legal for what?


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I just had this conversation at the LGW... He was telling me that GW corporate has told him "the majority of the model must be GW product".

...for what purpose?

Friendly play there is no limit. Hell, friendly play you can put a small shoebox down and call it a landraider if your opponent will let you lol. Tournament rules differ between tournaments, though i think the general rule of thumb is around 50% but dont quote me on that.

Rule of cool tends to override it though. Ive seen some OBVIOUS kitbashes that didnt have very many original GW bitz but were allowed anyway because the craftsmanship and paintjob was insane.

There's no official ruling on this.

Some stores will require it, but it is seriously going to vary from store to store to store.

The most common figures I've heard quoted are 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, and rarely 100%. Fifty and seventy-five percent are probably the ones I hear the most.

In GW stores: 100%
In friendly play anywhere else: 0.00%
At a non-GW tourney: Variea widely, but with GW no longer offering support there is no actual incentive for TOs to enforce anything. As a general rule your best bet is not to bring anything that isn't identifiable as what it is supposed to be and run it all by the TO well in advance.

 jonolikespie wrote:
In GW stores: 100%

Where are you getting that mate? Is it a GW-Australia thing? Because as I said earlier, in talking to the manager at my local GW, he was saying "official corporate policy" for games within the GW store was "mostly GW model"


(yeah, if you want to get technical, 100% is "mostly" GW product )

On the note of friendly play, I've let friends uses ERASERS as units to test them out. Ha ha, FLYRANT ERASER BOY.

In my local GW, the manager is a bit of a dick, but the other staff are super cool, and as long as he isn't around, they don't care as long as the majority of your stuff is GW. Also, everything needs to be 3 colors and based (standard rule I believe).

I've seen an entire Imperial Guard army made of HeroClix Shield agents, with the appropriate GW weapons swapped in.

As long as there is no confusion as to what the model is suppossed to be, I haven't seen anyone complain.

On the other hand, the LGS once had a player that insisted on making his Sisters of Battle army entirely out of Reaper Female Demon models. Everyone hated that guy. Don't be that guy.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I just had this conversation at the LGW... He was telling me that GW corporate has told him "the majority of the model must be GW product".

...for what purpose?

Just like the rules for fight club, GW dosent want you to talk about other companies bits.

No, I get why GW wouldn't want people to use third party models. The question was about when this supposed rule applies.

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
they don't care as long as the majority of your stuff is GW.

That sentence doesn't make any sense.

What I get from this is that they do care, and they care enough to feel that the majority of your stuff should be GW. That is as far away from "not caring" as you are going to get.



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Steelmage99 wrote:

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
they don't care as long as the majority of your stuff is GW.

That sentence doesn't make any sense.

What I get from this is that they do care, and they care enough to feel that the majority of your stuff should be GW. That is as far away from "not caring" as you are going to get.



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Haha, I award you the Nitpick of the Year award!

And if you were serious(lol), then he used a figure of speech in that sentence and it makes perfect sense because of that.

Rule of cool. I have used non GW and never had a complaint.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/501432-Alternate%20Stormraven%20GK.html

I used the Terminator HK and all I did was added a MM and LasCannons to make it a Storm Raven. I give people the fluff 1st tho. My Inquisitor found this alien thing and uses it like a Storm Raven. Looks cool doesn't it? Answer is always yes. Then i say the missiles even really fire.