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Douche/cut throat list. Yes, for 7e. These are the kind of waters I swim/play in.

Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Shard of Anarais, S-Spear
Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Stone of Anath'len

8 Jetlocks (1 S-Spear)

x4 DAVUs

Guardians w/ B-Lance

Guest Starring:
Baron-suck-on-my-2 Plus!
45 point Kabalite troop tax


1850 flat.

Possibly geared to getting Invis and/or Fortune. Plenty of Objective Securing units (10) for the new meta, but preserving the flavor of last edition's main-broken-Death/JetStar. Anyone already seeing this travesty across the table? Sincerely, I *am* looking for input as I may likely face a GT winner later on this week. And at the BAO, I'm going to spoil somebody's fun.

Tactics?

Condemnation?

Solid.

Good Fearless dual Farseer Baron Council. Runes of Witnessing rock hard.

Biggest pitfalls... 25% chance of not getting a specific power with both Farseers. 23% chance of not getting a specific power with the Warlocks. 6% chance you roll ever power and fail to get the one you want. Runes of witnessing definitely help mitigate the only one instance per power problem,


The army is still vulnerable to Alpha Strikes. Pod Marines could really put a damper on the army, Tau or other Eldar could with enough ranged shooting.

An air heavy enemy could bring issues, ie TelsaCrons. Keep their OS away long enough to snag the Objectives late game, Telsa Destructors can drop the Jetseers. Council has to chase Barges, Serpents struggle with AV13.

Definitely a solid list. If I were to make any suggestions, Id drop one DAVU and. Jet lock for a stock Wraithknight. Wraithknight brings quite a bit to the table.

If they try to alpha strike you just reserve the council, because now you can move onto the board and then cast powers.

Not my type of 7th seer star.
RIght now you have 1 primary detachment, and 1 allied.
I would drop all warlocks and dark eldar.
Then take another primary detachment (letting you take an extra 2 farseers on bikes) Then instead of dark eldar allies, take regular eldar allies. Take another farseer on jet bike, with mantle of the laughing god.
Join them all together. for a total of 5 farseers
You lose next to nothing (Its still battle forged, you still have hit and run, you still have a 2+ tank up front, and you still have a ton of warp charge)
You gain
Auto shrouded and stealth
Rerollable cover tank (no need for fortune on him) up front
No dark eldar troop tax
even more warp charge
No peril damage (kindof) on everything
Harder to lose warp charge by model dieing (multiple wound models)
Last turn more split offs to contest objectives

Honestly I dont know why people even take warlocks anymore

Well most GT won't allow multiple CAD, max being 1 in the Midwest.

He says nothing about competing in a GT, he talks about facing a former GT winner.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Not my type of 7th seer star.
RIght now you have 1 primary detachment, and 1 allied.
I would drop all warlocks and dark eldar.
Then take another primary detachment (letting you take an extra 2 farseers on bikes) Then instead of dark eldar allies, take regular eldar allies. Take another farseer on jet bike, with mantle of the laughing god.
Join them all together. for a total of 5 farseers
You lose next to nothing (Its still battle forged, you still have hit and run, you still have a 2+ tank up front, and you still have a ton of warp charge)
You gain
Auto shrouded and stealth
Rerollable cover tank (no need for fortune on him) up front
No dark eldar troop tax
even more warp charge
No peril damage (kindof) on everything
Harder to lose warp charge by model dieing (multiple wound models)
Last turn more split offs to contest objectives

Honestly I dont know why people even take warlocks anymore

You can't join a Farseer with Mantle of the Laughing God to a unit. He is a lone character... A rebel. I like the list plenty.

 oddworx wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Not my type of 7th seer star.
RIght now you have 1 primary detachment, and 1 allied.
I would drop all warlocks and dark eldar.
Then take another primary detachment (letting you take an extra 2 farseers on bikes) Then instead of dark eldar allies, take regular eldar allies. Take another farseer on jet bike, with mantle of the laughing god.
Join them all together. for a total of 5 farseers
You lose next to nothing (Its still battle forged, you still have hit and run, you still have a 2+ tank up front, and you still have a ton of warp charge)
You gain
Auto shrouded and stealth
Rerollable cover tank (no need for fortune on him) up front
No dark eldar troop tax
even more warp charge
No peril damage (kindof) on everything
Harder to lose warp charge by model dieing (multiple wound models)
Last turn more split offs to contest objectives

Honestly I dont know why people even take warlocks anymore

You can't join a Farseer with Mantle of the Laughing God to a unit. He is a lone character... A rebel. I like the list plenty.

Don't the new rules allow independent characters to join single model units? Hence the whole "everyone joins mephiston" convo's that so many are talking about?

In any case, you should feel bad about this list dood, or more I feel bad for you... Though I cannot fully fault you, as the last list I brought to GE was solely to kill stupid effing knights. I hate them...SO much... So you know what? Be that guy! Hahahahaha!

 gameandwatch wrote:
In any case, you should feel bad about this list dood, or more I feel bad for you... Though I cannot fully fault you, as the last list I brought to GE was solely to kill stupid effing knights. I hate them...SO much... So you know what? Be that guy! Hahahahaha!

@ gameandwatch
Heh. Yeah, it occurred to me that I *can* bring Eldar horror this to BAO, but I've got some enthusiasm building for tau, FoF kinda stuff, but there's so many games I need to get in to practice. Would I bring it to GE? I nearly did last May, but there was that bear ....

*And* I have Drop Pods and Razor/Rhinos enough to do SM MSU. *Plus* I finished a Pask Russ and I could include my Vendettas. 'Course, all that lost quite badly at LVO.

Too many armies, Andrew, too many.

The guy who I *will* play this against later this week already agreed and knows what's coming. My bet, I'll still lose.

 oddworx wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Not my type of 7th seer star.
RIght now you have 1 primary detachment, and 1 allied.
I would drop all warlocks and dark eldar.
Then take another primary detachment (letting you take an extra 2 farseers on bikes) Then instead of dark eldar allies, take regular eldar allies. Take another farseer on jet bike, with mantle of the laughing god.
Join them all together. for a total of 5 farseers
You lose next to nothing (Its still battle forged, you still have hit and run, you still have a 2+ tank up front, and you still have a ton of warp charge)
You gain
Auto shrouded and stealth
Rerollable cover tank (no need for fortune on him) up front
No dark eldar troop tax
even more warp charge
No peril damage (kindof) on everything
Harder to lose warp charge by model dieing (multiple wound models)
Last turn more split offs to contest objectives

Honestly I dont know why people even take warlocks anymore

You can't join a Farseer with Mantle of the Laughing God to a unit. He is a lone character... A rebel. I like the list plenty.

Nope, the other farseers join the laughing seer. Im surprised theres people who still havent heard of this.

 oddworx wrote:
You can't join a Farseer with Mantle of the Laughing God to a unit. He is a lone character... A rebel. I like the list plenty.

You're an evil DE player at heart, man.

@ninjafiredragon

I'll give your Jetstar rehash some serious thought, thanks.

 gameandwatch wrote:

 oddworx wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Not my type of 7th seer star.
RIght now you have 1 primary detachment, and 1 allied.
I would drop all warlocks and dark eldar.
Then take another primary detachment (letting you take an extra 2 farseers on bikes) Then instead of dark eldar allies, take regular eldar allies. Take another farseer on jet bike, with mantle of the laughing god.
Join them all together. for a total of 5 farseers
You lose next to nothing (Its still battle forged, you still have hit and run, you still have a 2+ tank up front, and you still have a ton of warp charge)
You gain
Auto shrouded and stealth
Rerollable cover tank (no need for fortune on him) up front
No dark eldar troop tax
even more warp charge
No peril damage (kindof) on everything
Harder to lose warp charge by model dieing (multiple wound models)
Last turn more split offs to contest objectives

Honestly I dont know why people even take warlocks anymore

You can't join a Farseer with Mantle of the Laughing God to a unit. He is a lone character... A rebel. I like the list plenty.

Don't the new rules allow independent characters to join single model units? Hence the whole "everyone joins mephiston" convo's that so many are talking about?

Even though the mantle seer can't join anyone, Yes, the rules in 7th allow the non-mantle seers to join the mantle seer so they can make one big happy group of farseers.

GW looked through their nerf gun and got a fluff head shot.

Also farseers can join the WK in an unbound list.

 Arbiter wrote:
GW looked through their nerf gun and got a fluff head shot.

Also farseers can join the WK in an unbound list.

I don't think they can join a Wraithknight as Unbound does not lift restrictions for ICs joining units containing a Monstrous Creature.


The 4 Farseers Joined to the MotLG Seer is nasty and legally a Battle Forged Army. But, from a competitive standpoint its hard to justify as it wouldn't be playable in any major tournament. Now, for a random game against a great opponent playing as cutthroat as it gets, yeah, it'll do.

Why can Farseers join a WK in any type of list given that the rules explicitly forbid them joining any units that contain MCs

 FlingitNow wrote:
Why can Farseers join a WK in any type of list given that the rules explicitly forbid them joining any units that contain MCs

They cant

Tiny fix. Worse?

Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Shard of Anarais, S-Spear
Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Stone of Anath'len

8 Jetlocks

x3 DAVUs with Scats, Holo & Shuriken Cannons
x1 DAVU no Sh-Cannon

Swooping Hawks (6 total), Exarch with Hit & Run

Baron Sath
Minimal Kabalites


1846

I would drop the cannons for 6 spears.

Brothererekose I hope I can say hello to you at the BAO.

Listwise only weakness I see is the Seer Council not being objective secured. If you lose your 8 OS units, it will be hard taking away objectives from a heavy OS list. Lately I've been just ignoring deathstar units and concentrating on killing OS units with my MSU Marines list.

 Brothererekose wrote:
Tiny fix. Worse?

Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Shard of Anarais, S-Spear
Jetseer - RoWard & Wit, Stone of Anath'len

8 Jetlocks

x3 DAVUs with Scats, Holo & Shuriken Cannons
x1 DAVU no Sh-Cannon

Swooping Hawks (6 total), Exarch with Hit & Run

Baron Sath
Minimal Kabalites


1846

First list was more cheesy
Second one is friendlier.

Your list is nearly identical to my 6th tourney list (the first one).

A lot depends on what you are allowed to take as an army. I think dual CAD Eldar will net yout a more efficient build. I'm thinking a more Ulthwe styled Seer Council with 3-4 Farseers will be a better fit. Plus, if you get multiple Invisibility you can have a Farseer split off to get multiple Invisibility on the table.

 Sarigar wrote:
Your list is nearly identical to my 6th tourney list (the first one).

A lot depends on what you are allowed to take as an army. I think dual CAD Eldar will net yout a more efficient build. I'm thinking a more Ulthwe styled Seer Council with 3-4 Farseers will be a better fit. Plus, if you get multiple Invisibility you can have a Farseer split off to get multiple Invisibility on the table.

July's BAO format, so ninjafiredragon's suggestion on dual FoCs with an ally is out.
...
I think.

And I based this list on the Las Vegas Open's winner list. ... Thus 'No imagination'.