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So other day I was using the new orkanauts. Well, the issue was that I was charged by a unit. Walkers are locked in combat until they die or win. Well, while locked in combat, can a unit disembark from it, given tht the access point was not blocked?

that is an interesting one. as there are no rules for transports engaged in combat, and the access point was not blocked, I think there is nothing to prevent diembarking. same with squiggoths.

Generally, we have permission to Disembark so there would need to be a Restriction stating 'unless locked in combat' to overwrite it in this situation.
I do not, personally, like metal boxes as all of mine do not have fire-points so I could be overlooking such a Restriction though inexperience.

Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

 Leonus wrote:
Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

Walkers turn to face the enemy as per the rulebook

 Leonus wrote:
Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

You turn and fight as normal, unless immobilized, then you cannot turn.

Walkers have to face their enemy in assault, so if his access point is on his front facing, models inside would not be able to get out.


If its on the rear, they could, assuming no enemy models were wrapped around him and within 1" of the access point.


Note that if the walker suffers a stunned result, and the models inside fail their leadership check, they would not be able to move and thus not be able to exit that turn.

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Leonus wrote:
Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

Walkers turn to face the enemy as per the rulebook

Are you talking about this line?

" Against an Immobilised Walker, models always roll for armour penetration against its rear armour. This is because, unlike other vehicles, the Walker turns to face its enemies and rampages through the melee." (Emphasis mine, Vehicles section, walkers and assaults sub-section)

because if you are, I underlined the rule and emphasized the fluff...

Eihnlazer wrote:
If its on the rear, they could, assuming no enemy models were wrapped around him and within 1" of the access point.

That is not how the Disembark rules work. It is far more complicated and conditional. You place the disembarking model in contact with the base of hull of the vehicle and wholly within 2" of an access point. If enemy models surrounding the vehicle do not leave at least a 3" gap (1" base and 1" on either side from an enemy model) that an embarked model can wholly disembark within 2" of an access point, then they cannot disembark. Simple, right?

 DeathReaper wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Leonus wrote:
Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

Walkers turn to face the enemy as per the rulebook

Are you talking about this line?

" Against an Immobilised Walker, models always roll for armour penetration against its rear armour. This is because, unlike other vehicles, the Walker turns to face its enemies and rampages through the melee." (Emphasis mine, Vehicles section, walkers and assaults sub-section)

because if you are, I underlined the rule and emphasized the fluff...

What makes you think that one part of the rules text is fluff and the other rules?

 Jimsolo wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Leonus wrote:
Assuming that you can disembark while your transport walker is locked in combat, what are the particulars for if you can change the facing of your walker during combat? I don't think there is any way to do so without being given a chance to pile in, but if you are given a pile in chance, can you face it in any direction you want? Never mattered much before.

Walkers turn to face the enemy as per the rulebook

Are you talking about this line?

" Against an Immobilised Walker, models always roll for armour penetration against its rear armour. This is because, unlike other vehicles, the Walker turns to face its enemies and rampages through the melee." (Emphasis mine, Vehicles section, walkers and assaults sub-section)

because if you are, I underlined the rule and emphasized the fluff...

What makes you think that one part of the rules text is fluff and the other rules?

Can you give a rules definition for "rampages through melee"?

 Happyjew wrote:
Can you give a rules definition for "rampages through melee"?

No one can, and that is why the part I emphasized is Fluff

"engages in melee combat" seems like a pretty reasonable guess, given the context.

 Jimsolo wrote:
"engages in melee combat" seems like a pretty reasonable guess, given the context.

So do you get any bonuses, penalties, or are there any additional rules that govern Rampaging through melee?

Or it that just fluff?

Hey, rampaging also sounds likethe Rampage USR - so that means, as it is close, that all walkers get Rampage now?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Hey, rampaging also sounds likethe Rampage USR - so that means, as it is close, that all walkers get Rampage now?

Seems like rai to me.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Hey, rampaging also sounds likethe Rampage USR - so that means, as it is close, that all walkers get Rampage now?

Sure, why not? As long as we're arbitrarily deciding that one part of the rules are fluff and one part aren't, let's also just hand out USRs.

Back on-topic though: I don't think being locked in combat would prevent a transport from letting the unit inside disembark, provided that they can do so legally using the rules for disembarking.


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danny1995 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Hey, rampaging also sounds likethe Rampage USR - so that means, as it is close, that all walkers get Rampage now?

Seems like rai to me.

Pretty sure he's joking, danny. It's RAR. Rules as Ridiculous.

Jimosolo - simple, explain the rule attached to it. Explain the ingame effect that section has in terms of in game rules. IF it has none, it is fluff.

It is, fully, fluff. AS fluff as "hatches are blown"