Noobie Dwarf player help me build my army plz

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**Matt2429**

Hello everybody,

I just recently got a dwarf army given to me that is very sizable but do not know enough about this game yet to form a balance TAC army for a tournament tomorrow morning (last minute I know).

What I have is(all approximate numbers):

120 warriors with hand weapons and shields
30-40 quarrelers (cross bow warriors) can be with shields or without
38-40 Thunderers can be with shields or without
30 warriors with great weapons
20 long beards
20-35 iron breakers
20 miners
3 cannons
2 bolt throwers
2 grudge throwers
2 Organ Guns

Rune priest with anvil
2-3 master engineers
some standard bearers

Please help me develop a TAC competitive list for a friendly tournament that. I'm not expecting to win but I want to put up a good fight for some good games. I am not going to buy new models for this army at this time, I am only willing to sue what I have. I'm sure I have more than what is listed however I have not been able to sort through everything yet as it came in 5 boxes with other warhammer stuff.

thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
I also forgot to mention that that army size is 2800 points.

**Matt2429**

Saldiven wrote:
How many points is the tournament? Is the runesmith model attached to the anvil, or can you field the model on its own? Do you prefer a shooty or in your face type army?

2800 points
not really sure what i prefer as I have only played 1 game and it was more half and half but i enjoyed shooting the enemy up before it made it to me to weaken them.
Runelord is with the anvil.

**Matt2429**

Awesome, thank you.

I don't have any friends that play dwarves. I think there is only like 3 dwarf players in my entire region.

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How does the Gyrocopters redirect charges? I am very new to this game and don't know my codex as well as I should.

**Matt2429**

Warpsolution wrote:
A few general points:

- the battle standard bearer: give him the Master Rune of Grungi. A 4+ Ward save--always a good idea on your BSB--normally runs you 45pts. So, for 15pts more, you get a 5+ against shooting and such in a bubble around him? Stupid-good.

- Dwarfs need to be at least S4 before they're reliable in combat. That means regular Warriors always go with great weapons, as do Quarrelers.
Longbeards can go either way.

- Quarrelers are good. Given great weapons, they're fantastic.
Given shields, they can win just about any shoot-out.

- Hammerers pack quite a punch, but I think their biggest strength is that 75pt banner limit. Valaya or Groth One-Eye, all the way!

- Miners are amazing. A unit of 10 will take out enemy war machines and the like no problem. A unit of 15-20 can threaten a flank or rear. A unit of 30...well, yeah.

- Cannons need Forging. It's so cheap and it improves their performance so much.

- Grudge Throwers don't need Penetration so much anymore. 40pts for S4(10) is quite an investment.

- everyone swears up and down by Organ Guns. And, hey, one of those babies (with Forging and Accuracy, if you can swing it) on your flank is devastating.
But don't ignore the Flame Cannon, either. That thing is sick.

- similar to the Organ Gun in performance are Irondrakes. More points/shot, but less points/wound. Shorter range, but Quick to Fire and Flaming, too.
Two Runes of Slowness on 15 of these guys will ruin quite a few units.

- Gyrocopters are cheap, plentiful, and versatile. Take two. Take three. Flee from charges and lay down templates. These guys are really the only way the Dwarf book can break out of it's "sit there and shoot" playstyle.

thank you so much for this advice as I have learn so much from loosing every game on Saturday and reading this that will help me devastate the others now. I was reading the codex last night and was thinking irondrakes are awesome and that they would be a worth while investment when I do buy more stuff for my dwarves. i was trying to get away without buying anything for them as i am so very heavily invested in 40k and was trying to avoid that with fantasy. but you mention the irondrakes, flame cannon and gyro copters all of which I don't have.

What about Ironbreakers?

**Matt2429**

I have heard from some players in my local meta that grudge throwers are great? I have not had any luck in the 2 games I used these things as in 1 game it never hit anything and the other it blew itself up on turn 2.

**Matt2429**

I did, maybe im just having bad luck with dice.

But the grudge thrower are worth it in your opinion?

**Matt2429**

so the consensus is take as much arty as you can fit into your list and then crap whatever is left with great weapon warriors and a battle standard Thrane with a rune smith.

Does this pretty much sum it up?

**Matt2429**

so what would you suggest for a 2800 point Dwarf list. I have since ordered a box of iron drakes and 2 gyro copters

**Matt2429**

Thank you for the advice.