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New to 7th, and I've heard you can't charge first turn, even if you go second.

I had a friend tell me this isn't true, but I couldn't find the rule in the BRB.

Can someone confirm with page number please?

Thank you.

You can, providing that the unit did not inflitrate, or scout.

Extremefreak has it right.
You can charge providing you did not infiltrate or scout.
It's difficult, but not impossible.

mrfantastical wrote:
New to 7th, and I've heard you can't charge first turn, even if you go second.

I had a friend tell me this isn't true, but I couldn't find the rule in the BRB.

Can someone confirm with page number please?

Thank you.

There is no general restriction on charging first turn. Only if you infiltrate, scout.

Also worth mentioning that If you arive from reserves turn 1 (Drop Pods come to mind) you can't charge either.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

mrfantastical wrote:
New to 7th, and I've heard you can't charge first turn, even if you go second.

I had a friend tell me this isn't true, but I couldn't find the rule in the BRB.

Can someone confirm with page number please?

Thank you.

There is no general restriction on charging first turn. Only if you infiltrate, scout.

And Deep Strike for those few armies that can Deepstrike on turn one, as you can't assault out of Deep striking either.

not as hard as you might think. scouts can wind up 12" away, and moving & disembarking puts you in an unfailable charge distance from them. infiltrators can also be a mere 18" away, not a problem for trukkas.

 some bloke wrote:
not as hard as you might think. scouts can wind up 12" away, and moving & disembarking puts you in an unfailable charge distance from them. infiltrators can also be a mere 18" away, not a problem for trukkas.

? You can't assault turn 1 if you scout or infiltrate as has been pointed out in this thread several times so I don't get what you're trying to say?

Basically pivot trick + moronic opponent + lucky dice is the only way still left I think.

Think Some Bloke might have been pointing out that ones opponent can bring the target closer for your convenience.

There are a number of special units that gain extra movement and can assault more than 24" in turn one. I wanna say the ork jump packers can, though I'm not positive.

Not anymore for Stormboyz.

It's also worth noting that Infiltrators who Infiltrate cannot charge in "their" first turn, which means no charging regardless of whether they go first or second.

This restriction is also in play on Scouts, who may not charge in the "first game turn."

 FlingitNow wrote:

 some bloke wrote:
not as hard as you might think. scouts can wind up 12" away, and moving & disembarking puts you in an unfailable charge distance from them. infiltrators can also be a mere 18" away, not a problem for trukkas.

? You can't assault turn 1 if you scout or infiltrate as has been pointed out in this thread several times so I don't get what you're trying to say?

Basically pivot trick + moronic opponent + lucky dice is the only way still left I think.

The pivot trick is no longer legal.

What was the pivot trick?

Makinit wrote:
What was the pivot trick?

Starting a vehicle sideways right up to the deployment line, then in the movement phase pivoting the vehicle before moving it forward effectively gaining an inch or more of displacement depending on the vehicle.

this used to be legal in 6th, but it is no longer legal in 7th ed.

at work with no brb, what ruling makes it illegal?

That is being discussed in this topic:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/602413.page

no need to go into it here.

barnowl wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

mrfantastical wrote:
New to 7th, and I've heard you can't charge first turn, even if you go second.

I had a friend tell me this isn't true, but I couldn't find the rule in the BRB.

Can someone confirm with page number please?

Thank you.

There is no general restriction on charging first turn. Only if you infiltrate, scout.

And Deep Strike for those few armies that can Deepstrike on turn one, as you can't assault out of Deep striking either.

That isn't a restriction on charging first turn, just from reserves or from deepstrike.

 FlingitNow wrote:

 some bloke wrote:
not as hard as you might think. scouts can wind up 12" away, and moving & disembarking puts you in an unfailable charge distance from them. infiltrators can also be a mere 18" away, not a problem for trukkas.

? You can't assault turn 1 if you scout or infiltrate as has been pointed out in this thread several times so I don't get what you're trying to say?

Basically pivot trick + moronic opponent + lucky dice is the only way still left I think.

Play against ravenguard sometime. a full army of enemy rhinos moves 12" closer to you. you move 6", disembark 6" and are now 1" away from these rhinos. trukks are open topped, turn 1 assault, unfailable.

enemy infiltrators deploy 12" away, behind some rocks. you drive 6" closer, dismbark 6" to where you can see them, unfailable charge.

enemy drop pod arrives in the opponents first turn, you can charge it in yours.

opponent moves flat-out to your face in the first turn, you can assault them in yours.

etc, etc, etc.

edit- Added "enemy" as I can see where the confusion could be.

 some bloke wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:

 some bloke wrote:
not as hard as you might think. scouts can wind up 12" away, and moving & disembarking puts you in an unfailable charge distance from them. infiltrators can also be a mere 18" away, not a problem for trukkas.

? You can't assault turn 1 if you scout or infiltrate as has been pointed out in this thread several times so I don't get what you're trying to say?

Basically pivot trick + moronic opponent + lucky dice is the only way still left I think.

Play against ravenguard sometime. a full army of enemy rhinos moves 12" closer to you. you move 6", disembark 6" and are now 1" away from these rhinos. trukks are open topped, turn 1 assault, unfailable.

enemy infiltrators deploy 12" away, behind some rocks. you drive 6" closer, dismbark 6" to where you can see them, unfailable charge.

enemy drop pod arrives in the opponents first turn, you can charge it in yours.

opponent moves flat-out to your face in the first turn, you can assault them in yours.

etc, etc, etc.

edit- Added "enemy" as I can see where the confusion could be.

That makes sense now. Though I'd just consider those charges an idiot tax.