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First time posting here so I hope I'm in the right section. I havnt played 40K since 2011 and I'm getting back into it with the new Ork Codex. But I'm having some problems making my list. So I hope someone can give me some help. First off; there are no points costs for items in the Gunz n Gubbinz section. How do I know what these things cost? I want my Boss to have a power claw but I don't know how much it costs for him. Also everyone says a Boss can't get an invulnerable save, but he can take items from the know what's section. The Kustom Force Field is in that section (again with no points cost) so why can't he take it? There's nothing that says it's just for Big Mek's.

Really it's the lack of points costs in the Gunz n Gubbinz that has me scratching my head. I've not looked at a codex in 3 years and I don't have the 7th edition BRB yet. But surely I'm just missing something here. So any help would be apreciated. And again my apologies if this is in the wrong section.

I haven't seen the new codex, but are the costs not listed on a page at the end of the wargear section, arranged in their respective lists? That's how it's set out in other newer codexes.

I can't help on the Warboss with KFF bit, I'm afraid.

Also, welcome to Dakka!

I don't know the specific page number, but from the Warboss Army List Entry (the one that says what upgrades he can take), go back 2-3 pages. You will find a page entitled "Orks Wargear List". These are the lists referred to in the entries.

As to the whole KFF thing, while it is a Know-wot, it is not listed in the Know-wot list that the Warboss has access to.

only the Big Mek can take the KFF and its point cost is listed on the Big Mek's page 57.

the points cost for other upgrades is page 53.

The Orky Know-wots list in the back of the book is misleading and not all of them are available to some characters. to see what is usable by each character see their individual page and page 53.

I wanted a warboss with a KFF too but it isn't going to happen sorry :(

With me I HATE the new layout (less fluff and actual model pictures instead of epic artwork? really geedubs?)
If you want to find what your actual units can use what your gonna want to do is go to the page were the model is at, look to the bottom and is should say "May take items from (Bold text from what gear you can take from what page here)
A warboss can take items from Ranged Weapons Melee Weapons Runts & squigs Orky Knowwots and gifts of gork and mork.
Under orky know wots there is cybork body which is basically is a Feel No Pain for 5 pts. And if you want to know the points for everything just before the warboss page (literally on the other side) theres a list of things and their points the "Orks Wargear list".
The layout is utterly orrible, and i have no idea why they didnt just use the one from the last codex, which was much easier and i didnt have to wade through a sea of pages to actually see things

Hoped this helped you put your lists together, i too took a day to put a list together. 80% of the time spent in the actual codex looking for things.

Cyborks will never be taken again. If it was a 5+ fnp yea take it, but a freakin 6+? ...... really

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Cyborks will never be taken again. If it was a 5+ fnp yea take it, but a freakin 6+? ...... really

Actually, i see it's use for an HQ that's not gona join a unit with a painboss. For example, you have a wagon of boyz with a megaboss. Why not take this 6+++? Anything that's ap2 is hitting the boyz anywayz while you tank regular wounds with a megaboss and this extra 6+++ is not bad for 5 (?) pts. I'd sure prefer 5++ to 6+++ but that's all what we've got right now. And it's not that bad after all.

Thanks to all who replied. I felt like an idiot when I realized pages 52 and 53 were stuck together in my book! Doh! But yes I am not a fan of this new layout. There's too much going back and forth. Why not just have points costs listed with the description? Makes no sense. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to my own thread but I was in the hospital with my fiancé as she gave birth to our beautiful baby girl and then I've been trying to help get things settled at home. But thank you all for the help!