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I am deciding between two lists for my next 1500p 'fun' army project. Both of these options look fun and potentially not 100% garbage.

White Scars bikers VS Thunderwolf Cav

Please comment and rate lists for potential fun & competitiveness.

C&C also welcomed, detailed lists are included after the below..


Canis Wolfborn
Wolf lord on thunderwolf
Rune priest on bike
18 x thunderwolf cav
15 x fenrisian wolves

vs.

command squad bikes x 5
librarian on bike
Kahn on bike
20 x bikers
5 x land speeders



+++ white scars test (1490pts) +++

Space Marines: Codex

+ (No Category) + (220pts)

* Chapter Tactics
White Scars

* Command Squad (220pts)
* 3x Bolt Pistol, Company Standard, Grav-gun, Meltagun, Plasma Gun, Power Armour, Space Marine Bikes
* 3x Veteran
* Apothecary, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
* Company Champion, Combat Shield, Power Lance

+ HQ + (285pts)

* Kor'Sarro Khan (150pts)
Moondrakken

* Librarian (135pts)
* Digital Weapons, Mastery Level 2
* Power Armour, Force Maul, Grav Pistol
* Space Marine Bike

+ Troops + (600pts)

* Bike Squad (Troops) (150pts)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* Grav-gun, Plasma Gun
* Biker Sergean, tBolt pistol, Melta Bombs

* Bike Squad (Troops) (150pts)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* Grav-gun, Plasma Gun
* Biker Sergean, tBolt pistol, Melta Bombs

* Bike Squad (Troops) (150pts)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* Grav-gun, Plasma Gun
* Biker Sergean, tBolt pistol, Melta Bombs

* Bike Squad (Troops) (150pts)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* Grav-gun, Plasma Gun
* Biker Sergean, tBolt pistol, Melta Bombs


+ Fast Attack + (385pts)

* Land Speeder Squadron
* Land Speeder Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
* Land Speeder Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
* Land Speeder Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Land Speeder Squadron
* Land Speeder Multi-Melta, Multi-Melta
* Land Speeder Multi-Melta, Multi-Melta




and



+++ SW (1494pts) +++



+ HQ + (625pts)

* Canis Wolfborn (185pts)

* Rune Priest (180pts)
Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace
Runic Armour
Bike
Saga of the Beastslayer


* Wolf Lord (260pts)
Runic Armour, Storm Shield, Thunder Hammer, Thunderwolf
Saga of the Bear


+ Troops + (144pts)

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops) (48pts)
Cyberwolf, 5x Fenrisian Wolf

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops) (48pts)
Cyberwolf, 5x Fenrisian Wolf

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops) (48pts)
Cyberwolf, 5x Fenrisian Wolf

+ Fast Attack + (725pts)

* Thunderwolf Cavalry (275pts)
* 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry
5x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 5x Power Armour, Power Fist

* Thunderwolf Cavalry (225pts)
* 4x Thunderwolf Cavalry
* 4x Bolt Pistol, 3x Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist

* Thunderwolf Cavalry (225pts)
* 4x Thunderwolf Cavalry
* 4x Bolt Pistol, 3x Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist

The White Scars list is good, but you should use the same special weapons in units.

Why not combine them?

Use the wolves as the main. Obviously you're going to have to lose some things, but you get the novelty of two fast lists that are a complete pain in the arse. I upped the wolves to make them more of an issue to take pressure off the tougher units, and changed a few upgrades since I wasn't a fan of the options used. Also I'm not hot on SW points so I left that upto you...


+++ White Scars +++


+ HQ +

* Kor'Sarro Khan
Moondrakken

+ Troops +

* Bike Squad (Troops)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* 2x Grav-gun
* Biker Sergeant, Bolt pistol

* Bike Squad (Troops)
* 4x Space Marine Biker
* 2x Grav-gun
* Biker Sergeant, Bolt pistol



+++ SW +++



+ HQ +

* Canis Wolfborn

+ Troops +

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops)
10x Fenrisian Wolf

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops)
10x Fenrisian Wolf

* Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Troops)
10x Fenrisian Wolf

+ Fast Attack +

* Thunderwolf Cavalry
* 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry
5x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 5x Power Armour, Power Fist, 2x Storm Shields