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nosferatu1001 wrote:
Thekbob - Ferrari make a certain type of car to do x. X will never include carrying a chest of drawers, despite significantly cheaper, different cars being able to.

GW is Ferrari, in that their stated aim is not a pure pug ruleset, and certainly jot a tournament set. So complaining that they don't cater to your needs (a pug ruleset) is like complaining that Ferrari do not make a car that fits your need (carrying a chest of drawers). Apologies, I thought the analogy was clear. Is that better?

Note: this isn't making a comparator within war gaming companies, I'm not saying GW is Ferrari. Although they are both following not too disimilar strategies of raising prices and cutting production, just for different aims and with different levels of success.

Finally , both Bentley and RRMC have been German owned since about 1998 (with VW hilariously losing out on RRMC as it turns out they bought something the vendor Vickers wasn't able to sell...) and they make some damn reliable cars. Britain makes great cars, were just usually crap at actually running the companies full disclosure - I work for one of the two firms


What are the rules good for though? Pugs, nope. Tournament? Nope. Narrative? Utter trash as per usual. So what exactly is 40k good at? I suppose you can say that the fluff is good particularly as the mindset of editing out the fluff you dislike can make it more appealing (because, let's be honest, there is a lot of Star Wars expanded universe bad level material out there) and the models are usually rather good (bar finecast ) but really, what does it fit into? A game where you have to rework the rules and go through them with pen and marker to balance the game yourself despite the fact that we are simply customers. Should one have to pay almost 100 dollars for the rules then 50 more for the codex just to play a set of rules that are absolutely atrocious?
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 SHUPPET wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
Did i read that transporting a large army "2000 points" is very difficult? that its too hard to move that many models then allow me to point you in the direction of THIS bad boy

http://us.battlefoam.com/black-label-rj-16-space-marine-load-out/

now with basic marines it fits. 170 basic marines + so much more. i customed mine up and i fit over 13,000 (yep THIRTEEN THOUSAND) points in one of them (base models theres also a million (nearly haha) magnetized bits), and it has WHEELS and a handle.
Now imagine what you can do with a smaller one.... where you need 1/6 the space..

now i hate to say it transporting this stuff isnt too bad, 1500 points is a shoebox, if you like to keep nicely painted models shell out 40 bucks on some cheap foam pluck trays and a plastic box. and transport is sorted.

the bigger barrier is a 2k army, which if you magnetize the options in a kit up is much easier to do. or bitz things up, devastator boxes come with twice as many weapons as there is bodies or is it 3x? i cant remember. fleshing out options for your army isnt really that hard is it? because if you do that kind of thing your 1500pt base army is now customisable to an extent and saves you owning 50000000 models and is easier to transport. this is just to put ideas out there to those that say my 1500 pt force cant be touched up.

now as to not getting games, if you have a local store that you play at. set up a FB group or something for it so you can have LF games things to make organizing easier and while your at it you can discuss the options for the game, and this is how you can start your own clubs. and grow from there.

this doesnt sort internal ballances, but i see more complaining about getting games at a min. then it seems to be games that "you" approve of, rather than none at all.

for me though ill settle with BRB and go for it without adding in clauses as to what to bring, there is enough other rules discussions to have during the game

You read that transporting models was an added barrier.

How in the feth is a $400 carry case not another barrier. Sure the smaller ones will be cheaper, but you are comparing it to space Marines - some of the costlypiest points for standard infantry available, 5 TAC marines no upgrades costs as much as 15 termagants - and this is before we mention that TAC marines are one of the cheapest units in your army, AND would have upgrades as well. A lot of armies travel much harder than power army does, my friend. You could probably fit ore than 2 landraiders in the space it takes a 140 pt Harley's wingpsan and height to fit.

Your post is really narrow minded. At best, doing all that even at good prices, is still just one more barrier. One of many.


Worst yet when you field chaos daemons. Why are the swords of bloodletters the size of an extra model
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 Corporal_Chaos wrote:
Balance is not an issue. War is never equal...lol


And neither side tries to deploy 1000 points with only a maximum of 5 points of variation in real war. 40k is a game, not a war.
 
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