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New host stretch!



Also, Savrar will appear as part of the Khthones host. But we don't know how, so we could have missile warriors...

 zedmeister wrote:
Also, Savrar will appear as part of the Khthones host. But we don't know how, so we could have missile warriors...

Oh man, that's so awesome! And tempting... hmmmmmmmmmm

The Anglecynn host is nice, almost tempted to get two. But since the werwulfs are modified from the old versions then if you didn't like the originals I can't see you liking these.

I do hope the Khthone host focuses on svrar. I've got enough gorgonars and gorgorars. What I need are low cost troops.

Khthones slated for gbp100k. Those savrar might well become the next unit always tantalizingly close, but never quite there. Charlie brown's football of Mierce KS's.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Khthones slated for gbp100k. Those savrar might well become the next unit always tantalizingly close, but never quite there. Charlie brown's football of Mierce KS's.

Yikes!

Not sure we'll get there.

I hope we do, but while this is supposed to be the next 'big' Mierce Darklands KS it somehow isn't feeling like it will be yet.

Feels more like it will be somewhere between "Monstrous Mounts" and "Metal Age".

Maybe due to the limited selection at the start, or the £10K unlock levels?

Yeah.. this is not going to be another 200k+ KS. Units are too special.

Erainn coming after the Angelcynn.
Byzantii/Infernii at £50K.

Guess I'm resigned to no Svrar once again.

 Henry wrote:

Byzantii/Infernii at £50K.

I might spend less on this one then I did on Monstrous Mounts. If there are no filler units, then I don't have a 2nd host to pledge for till 50k.

I've a "Darklands" overdose. There are units I'd like but I'm tempted to wait because the metal retail prices look good. In metal age I couldn't justify the duplication of minis I had to save a couple of quid. I ended up backing for a single limited edition boozy mini instead.

With the 1st Ed book still to arrive and wait for monstrous mounts, I'm weary of pledging early for the second book and a later wave of minis. Don't get me wrong, I like Darklands, I just need some time to catch up.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Khthones slated for gbp100k. Those savrar might well become the next unit always tantalizingly close, but never quite there. Charlie brown's football of Mierce KS's.

Yikes!

Not sure we'll get there.

I hope we do, but while this is supposed to be the next 'big' Mierce Darklands KS it somehow isn't feeling like it will be yet.

Feels more like it will be somewhere between "Monstrous Mounts" and "Metal Age".

Maybe due to the limited selection at the start, or the £10K unlock levels?

I would guess a combination. The initial host offered, Jutes, was one of their newer ones with no units currently in people's hands, so right off the bat you have potentially fewer players going to select it. So let's say a non-jutes player wants their faction starter, and decides to pledge. This helps fund the jutes, but when the next stretch goal rolls around, even if the kindred is one they pledged, they already upped, so it doesnt help unlock the third starter. I'm kind of in that boat - I pledged for 2 metal starters (Jutes and something else) so they arent getting more from me until more factions I collect are unlocked (at least before the campaign ends... afterwards I always cave).

Unlocking multiple starters piecemeal like in New Kindreds might have worked better, as it tempts a wider audience. We'll see how this works out. I know Rob said he wanted to ease up on the alt sculpts/exclusives, but they do generate a lot of bang for the buck for the company. The boozin companions really seemed to help move the metal age totals along.

The other issue is they are offering a cheaper alternative (metal), but having to pay to fund 2 sets of molds (resin and metal). The metal may be eating into the higher priced resin sales, dropping the total. Ideally this would be made up for in additional volume of metal sales. Hopefully this picks up after the mail shot and word spreads. Because seriously, 40 bucks for 10 figs of this caliber is a sweet deal. The metal figs are now about on par with warmahordes, and it looks like a playable force can be had easily for under $200 or so.

I rather like the Angle's, other than that ugly hero, but I gotta wonder what the fulfillment window for this is going to look like. The metal age stuff is still a year out isn't it, or am I misremembering that? I don't know that I want to tie the money up for that long, and maybe not get models at the end. Time and delay seems to be adding up, not getting less, with each additional KS.

From the sound of it the metal casting (for they stuff that's already sculpted) is progressing as planned,

this lot were locked down at the beginning of the month

•Anglecynn Duguth (all sculpts in hand)
•Brythoniaid Teulu (all sculpts in hand)
•Byzantii Legionarius (I think they're all done?)
•Fomoraic Gabrax (all sculpts in hand)
•Norse Holumann (all sculpts in hand)
•Ysian Ax-Drune (all sculpts in hand)
•Érainn Tuanagh (2 trees missing, but we've seen them so I guess Rob could ask for them to be sent without the other 3 )


so I think a (late) November date for the first orders going out is not impossible (although a bit of slippage might happen, depending on whether Tim got all the masters over to the casters on time or whether his operation effected things)

the stuff below is due to be locked down at the end of October so but isn't due out til February 2016 so there's still a reasonable amount of time for the sculpts to come in


•Anglecynn Gesith (all sculpts in hand?)
•Ysian Bow-Drune (all in sculpts in hand)
•Brythoniaid Rhyfelwr (Mostly done, although the troops need to get to mierce so should be on time)
•Jute Wihtgar (if the 3d printing goes ok, these should be on time)

•Albainn Gairlom (troops to do, may slip)
•Fomoraic Warriors of Baalor (needs 2 toracx sculpts so proably a bit late)
•Byzantii Demilegionarius (lots of sculpts needed, this will slip)
•Atalantes Oplites (all to do these will be late)

 Wehrkind wrote:
I rather like the Angle's, other than that ugly hero, but I gotta wonder what the fulfillment window for this is going to look like. The metal age stuff is still a year out isn't it, or am I misremembering that? I don't know that I want to tie the money up for that long, and maybe not get models at the end. Time and delay seems to be adding up, not getting less, with each additional KS.

Metal Age is supposedly shipping November for the first half of the stuff and February for the second. I believe this one has stuff all shipping in June 2016. So it's a ways, but nowhere near as long as many other Kickstarters.

As for this one...I'm honestly a bit underwhelmed. Would have liked to see a bit more revealed right off the bat. Those Jutes are amazing though, and that's what my GF collects, so we'll see.

 Wehrkind wrote:
I rather like the Angle's, other than that ugly hero, but I gotta wonder what the fulfillment window for this is going to look like. The metal age stuff is still a year out isn't it, or am I misremembering that? I don't know that I want to tie the money up for that long, and maybe not get models at the end. Time and delay seems to be adding up, not getting less, with each additional KS.

1st batch of Metal is supposedly in November and everything is now sculpted (they showed the two completed fenn beasts for the Erainn last New Kindreds update). This includes

Anglecynn Duguth
Brythoniaid Teulu
Byzantii Legionarius
Érainn Tuanagh
Fomoraic Gabrax
Norse Holumann
Ysian Ax-Drune

This seems doable without much fuss. All they need to do is make the molds, and casting metal is much easier than resin.

Of the rest of the metals the following need to be sculpted
Anclecynn Geisith - only the Aethelglyth resculpt
Atalantes - Everything
Brythoniaid - All done! (I think)
Byzanti Demilegionarius - Nervor, all the demilegionarius
Formoraic Warriors of Baalor - 2 pigs
Jutes - only Aetulla is left
Ysian Bow Drunes - All done!

They are actually a good way towards being able to fulfill the 2nd wave of metal hosts, which I think were originally slated for February 2016.

I bought the two different Ysian sets.. can't wait to get them

RoninXiC wrote:
I bought the two different Ysian sets.. can't wait to get them

Same here. The two Ysians, extra brutes, the big brute character, and a hound abberrant. Kind of sad that I didn't buy the big angry vagina monster though.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Khthones slated for gbp100k. Those savrar might well become the next unit always tantalizingly close, but never quite there. Charlie brown's football of Mierce KS's.

Yikes!

Not sure we'll get there.

I hope we do, but while this is supposed to be the next 'big' Mierce Darklands KS it somehow isn't feeling like it will be yet.

Feels more like it will be somewhere between "Monstrous Mounts" and "Metal Age".

Maybe due to the limited selection at the start, or the £10K unlock levels?

Fomoraic won't be until near 100k either. I have a feeling that this will be a very small kickstarter, since it's the kickstarter that has the least available.

No mention of Norse, and I'm also shocked they haven't got a bow-drune host up already. From what I understand, Fomoraic, Norse and Ysians are the most popular factions.

It seems to me that in a Kickstarter opening new types of units - Mierce is pushing the new factions rather than making something available for the more popular factions. If the campaign hits 100k, it should pick up some momentum from fans of the popular factions, but I'm not sure it will make it that far.

I'm also wondering if fitting in the price for metal, meaning longer stretch goals is going to slow down the speed of the kickstarter as well.

If it was all resin we would have seen more stretch goals by now and I think we would be picking up momentum already. At this rate we may not even see any warmachines let along the Jutgar.

I'm also wondering if people are less interested in ranged weaponry like archer units.

decker_cky wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Khthones slated for gbp100k. Those savrar might well become the next unit always tantalizingly close, but never quite there. Charlie brown's football of Mierce KS's.

Yikes!

Not sure we'll get there.

I hope we do, but while this is supposed to be the next 'big' Mierce Darklands KS it somehow isn't feeling like it will be yet.

Feels more like it will be somewhere between "Monstrous Mounts" and "Metal Age".

Maybe due to the limited selection at the start, or the £10K unlock levels?

Fomoraic won't be until near 100k either. I have a feeling that this will be a very small kickstarter, since it's the kickstarter that has the least available.

No mention of Norse, and I'm also shocked they haven't got a bow-drune host up already. From what I understand, Fomoraic, Norse and Ysians are the most popular factions.

It seems to me that in a Kickstarter opening new types of units - Mierce is pushing the new factions rather than making something available for the more popular factions. If the campaign hits 100k, it should pick up some momentum from fans of the popular factions, but I'm not sure it will make it that far.

...Well, that sucks then. I might actually have to pull even my 60GBP pledge if Fomoraic might not be in, either. Shame.

Huh, I'd have sworn I had an email saying "November 2016."

Well, I'll be damned. Good on you Mierce! Maybe I will come up with 100+$ for this after all

 GiraffeX wrote:
I'm also wondering if fitting in the price for metal, meaning longer stretch goals is going to slow down the speed of the kickstarter as well.

If it was all resin we would have seen more stretch goals by now and I think we would be picking up momentum already. At this rate we may not even see any warmachines let along the Jutgar.

I'm also wondering if people are less interested in ranged weaponry like archer units.

Not so sure about that. These are each funding two new units being sculpted. I think 5k per unit is in line with recent campaigns.

...Well, that sucks then. I might actually have to pull even my 60GBP pledge if Fomoraic might not be in, either. Shame.

I'm sitting on a double metal pledge on the hope that things are unlocked. As is, there's nothing I actually want revealed (let alone open, which is a single unit).

They've just unveiled the Brythoniaid Landscape artwork:

and some Good News about those Jutes

They are utterly superb miniatures (we've had one printed already) and have exceeded our expectations and more.

which is very encouraging as a bunch of the delays they've had have been down to 3D sculpts looking good on screen but not working on printing (to big/small/delicate etc) leading to resculpting, expensive reprinting etc

since Edgar has nailed the Jutes there rest of the stuff he produced should also be fine

(plus skelingtons, lots and lots of spooky skelingtons are always good news)

I'm guessing the shipping date of June is for resin do we know when the metal version submission date is, when you have to pre-purchase them?

That's a lot more, for lack of a better term, 'hi-tech' in terms of where I thought the world would be for buildings.

Opens up a lot more possibilities, actually.

I like it!

 Alpharius wrote:
That's a lot more, for lack of a better term, 'hi-tech' in terms of where I thought the world would be for buildings.

Opens up a lot more possibilities, actually.

I like it!

They're actually the remains of a Roman fort...

Also, here's some more:

Angelcynn, Tamtum


Albainn, Dun Durn (complete with Broch)


Khthones, Arkhton




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For the Norse! Stafangr of the Skilfings:

That's a lot of large/tall masonry for the time period. Pretty much the only feature you'd actually expect is that round-tower and even that seems a little on the ambitious side to me, size-wise.

OTOH I suspect the dragon in the top right quadrant poses an issue or two anyway, historically

It'd be interesting to hear whether this is some huge capital-fortress or somesuch , or just some random noble's fortress of which there might be another twenty around. If the latter, that would indeed change a thing or two as far as choice of scenery is concerned.


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Those Khthones ruins sure do look rather impressive - guess the architecture and other worldbuilding aspects have gone over to the fantasy end of the spectrum a little more than it originally seemed, as well.
Those are some purty pictures, too.

I like them. It's a larger than life setting grounded in reality, it's good to stretch the potential for what could have been achieved at the time a bit.

I think I might be able to make my planned Frostgrave terrain work for abandoned ancient northern ruins...and then never play either game!

I really think there should be more pictures of the existing range on the kickstarter page. I understand that the photography is expensive, but even just the unpainted models are impressive. I can't tell you how many kickstarters I've checked out, and after scrolling down the page quickly and not seeing any miniatures that caught my eye, I moved on.

There are so many eye catching miniatures in the Mierce library, and if someone sees one they like, they'll dig deeper on how to get it.

This KS doesn't really have the feeling of a 'big one' behind it, it feels too rushed, but I like how focused it is. Perhaps not having a year with out a huge KS will help them get some of these smaller KS fulfilled and then they can do a proper 'big one', with a finished rule book, and more, next year.

Banebeasts 1 is very close to done, BB2 has several items finished already, and Metal age didn't have much in the way of new units (mostly alterations, and metal versions of existing stuff), so hopefully these can be dealt with easily.

New stretch.

By going for the metal deal you get the small troops in the much tougher metal and the big guys in loverly high detail resin. If you want Erainn it's sort of a no-brainer I reckon.