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Do spore mines hit vehicles in the rear, or in the arc they explode in?

Spore Mines do not attack in close com bat. Instead, at the Initiative 1 0 step, the entire cluster detonates! To resolve this, centre the large
blast marker ov er any one of the unit’s Spore Mines. Every other unit (friend or foe) under the blast marker suffers a number of hits equal
to the number of its models under the blast marker.

The arc they explode in, why would it be the rear? is it a CC attack or something?

Its currently unspecified. We only have a few things to look at.


The only similar attack to it in assault are stomp attacks. You cant really compare those though, as they roll on a chart to see what they do.

It happens at initiative 10. This sort of equates it to a close combat attack. It is not specific though.

Its a blast template using a special weapon profile. The only other attack that utilizes a similar profile is the biovores barrage attacks. Do you therefore treat it as a barrage and hit side armor?



I think its currently correct to just consider the blast itself as just a way to count hits, and resolve it as a melee attack, but that is pretty strong. Consider however that the spores themselves are killing themselves when they do it and thus will only get this one attack in and its not so bad.

I think its reasonable and rationale to assume the blast is coming from the spore mine exploding, so you would determine the direction from that.

The problem is if you take say a unit of 6 spore mines, deep strike them, and the following turn they assault something, there is a decent chance they cover more than one facing. Then how do you determine where the explosion comes from? Does the player get to pick[edit- it says you get to center it over any model, so yes player would get to pick]? Do we assume side armor? Is it an attack during the assault phase even though it uses the large template, meaning against non walker it hits rear armor regardless of facing? Unknown. :(

blaktoof wrote:
I think its reasonable and rationale to assume the blast is coming from the spore mine exploding, so you would determine the direction from that.

The problem is if you take say a unit of 6 spore mines, deep strike them, and the following turn they assault something, there is a decent chance they cover more than one facing. Then how do you determine where the explosion comes from? Does the player get to pick[edit- it says you get to center it over any model, so yes player would get to pick]? Do we assume side armor? Is it an attack during the assault phase even though it uses the large template, meaning against non walker it hits rear armor regardless of facing? Unknown. :(

you resolve them in the facing they are in, some in front some on the side, you resolve the ones in the front on the front armor and the ones on the side you resolve in the side armor.

I guess that does make sense.

normally attacks in assault target the models rear armor.

But the blast is centered from the spore mine model and you would take hits based on where the center is.

 DeathReaper wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
I think its reasonable and rationale to assume the blast is coming from the spore mine exploding, so you would determine the direction from that.

The problem is if you take say a unit of 6 spore mines, deep strike them, and the following turn they assault something, there is a decent chance they cover more than one facing. Then how do you determine where the explosion comes from? Does the player get to pick[edit- it says you get to center it over any model, so yes player would get to pick]? Do we assume side armor? Is it an attack during the assault phase even though it uses the large template, meaning against non walker it hits rear armor regardless of facing? Unknown. :(

you resolve them in the facing they are in, some in front some on the side, you resolve the ones in the front on the front armor and the ones on the side you resolve in the side armor.

Except you can't actually do that.

It's one blast and you pick which mine the blast is centered on. So you hit the facing that the mine you centered the blast on is in.

Following up on such a choice, i have a quick question. Charges are said to be "shortest route" to get to your target.
If the spore mines are 2" in front of the vehicle and roll double 6, would they have to be in the front arc, in B2B?
Or could you "use up" your total charge distance and reach the back?

 BlackTalos wrote:
Following up on such a choice, i have a quick question. Charges are said to be "shortest route" to get to your target.
If the spore mines are 2" in front of the vehicle and roll double 6, would they have to be in the front arc, in B2B?
Or could you "use up" your total charge distance and reach the back?

The first model has to use the shortest route. There are no such restrictions on subsequent models.

ah okay, thanks for that!

rigeld2 wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
I think its reasonable and rationale to assume the blast is coming from the spore mine exploding, so you would determine the direction from that.

The problem is if you take say a unit of 6 spore mines, deep strike them, and the following turn they assault something, there is a decent chance they cover more than one facing. Then how do you determine where the explosion comes from? Does the player get to pick[edit- it says you get to center it over any model, so yes player would get to pick]? Do we assume side armor? Is it an attack during the assault phase even though it uses the large template, meaning against non walker it hits rear armor regardless of facing? Unknown. :(

you resolve them in the facing they are in, some in front some on the side, you resolve the ones in the front on the front armor and the ones on the side you resolve in the side armor.

Except you can't actually do that.

It's one blast and you pick which mine the blast is centered on. So you hit the facing that the mine you centered the blast on is in.

Good to know.

Thanks for the clarification.

 DeathReaper wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
I think its reasonable and rationale to assume the blast is coming from the spore mine exploding, so you would determine the direction from that.

The problem is if you take say a unit of 6 spore mines, deep strike them, and the following turn they assault something, there is a decent chance they cover more than one facing. Then how do you determine where the explosion comes from? Does the player get to pick[edit- it says you get to center it over any model, so yes player would get to pick]? Do we assume side armor? Is it an attack during the assault phase even though it uses the large template, meaning against non walker it hits rear armor regardless of facing? Unknown. :(

you resolve them in the facing they are in, some in front some on the side, you resolve the ones in the front on the front armor and the ones on the side you resolve in the side armor.

Except you can't actually do that.

It's one blast and you pick which mine the blast is centered on. So you hit the facing that the mine you centered the blast on is in.

Good to know, the question implied it was multiple blast markers.

Thanks for the clarification.

For reference, the rules quote is in the original post.