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I just need confirmation, or if I'm totally derping out here...

According to the new 7th edition rules for walkers, you add +1 to your attacks for each CCW after the first one... right?

Maulerfield has 2 based attacks on it's profile.

It's standard wargear listing is 2x powerfist and 2x magna cutters*.

So, is that 5 total attacks?

*I'm confused about this wargear... is it truly a CCW? It has special rules that if you hit at least once, you'd get 1 extra attack per magna cutter at Init 1. If you hit on all 5, you'd get 2 additional attack per magna cutter at Init 1.

Right?

Given the above is correct, are the following scenarios correct?

On the charge...
1) 5 based attacks + 1 for charge = 2 hits at Init 3... then, at Init 1 the Maulerfiend makes 2 additional attacks via 2x magna cutters.

2) 5 based attacks + 1 for charge = 6 hits at Init 3... then, at Init 1 the Maulerfiend makes 4 additional attacks via 2x magna cutters.

Magna Cutters are not CCWs. They're wargear that provide a benefit in close combat.

3 base attacks +1 for charge, 3 hits at init 3, 1 extra attack at init 1. If you hit 4 times, 2 extra attacks at init 1.

rigeld2 wrote:
Magna Cutters are not CCWs. They're wargear that provide a benefit in close combat.

3 base attacks +1 for charge, 3 hits at init 3, 1 extra attack at init 1. If you hit 4 times, 2 extra attacks at init 1.

Ah... okay.

Then what's the point of saying "2x Magna Cutters" in it's profile?

cause your getting the bonus attacks for 2 instead of 1.

 whembly wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
Magna Cutters are not CCWs. They're wargear that provide a benefit in close combat.

3 base attacks +1 for charge, 3 hits at init 3, 1 extra attack at init 1. If you hit 4 times, 2 extra attacks at init 1.

Ah... okay.

Then what's the point of saying "2x Magna Cutters" in it's profile?

I dunno? Because it looks cool?


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Eihnlazer wrote:
cause your getting the bonus attacks for 2 instead of 1.

No, you're not. It's not a CCW nor do its specific rules care if there's one or more than one.

Rig looking at the rules he posted up there:

It has special rules that if you hit at least once, you'd get 1 extra attack per magna cutter at Init 1. If you hit on all 5, you'd get 2 additional attack per magna cutter at Init 1.


This says to me that he gets 1 extra attack per magna cutter for one hit (so 2 extra) and 2 extra per magna cutter if all your attacks hit (so 4 extra).

Did he post the rule incorrectly?

Eihnlazer wrote:
Rig looking at the rules he posted up there:

It has special rules that if you hit at least once, you'd get 1 extra attack per magna cutter at Init 1. If you hit on all 5, you'd get 2 additional attack per magna cutter at Init 1.


This says to me that he gets 1 extra attack per magna cutter for one hit (so 2 extra) and 2 extra per magna cutter if all your attacks hit (so 4 extra).

Did he post the rule incorrectly?

Yes. If it hits with one attack, it gets a free attack with one of it's magma cutters. If it hits with all of them it gets 2 extra attacks with its magma cutters. It's not per magma cutter.
Making assertions without access to the rules isn't a good idea.

Which is why i asked if he posted an incorrect rules quote.

I answered him based on the info that was given me. No reason to snip.

If you hit with at least one attack, you get ONE auto hitting magna cutter hit on the same target. If all 4 attacks on the charge hit you get 2, only two auto hitting magna cutter attacks.

Lungpickle wrote:
If you hit with at least one attack, you get ONE auto hitting magna cutter hit on the same target. If all 4 attacks on the charge hit you get 2, only two auto hitting magna cutter attacks.

It is actually one or two extra hits on the same MODEL, not the unit, which makes it only good to destroy vehicles (which is what it is intended for), most of the models will die with the S10 attacks so the extra hits can't be allocated due to the model no longer being on the table.